Climate Change: Phasing Out Fossil Fuels Debate

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Department: Department for Energy Security & Net Zero

Climate Change: Phasing Out Fossil Fuels

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock Excerpts
Wednesday 6th December 2023

(1 year ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Callanan Portrait Lord Callanan (Con)
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I have certainly heard what the noble Baroness has to say on this. I cannot go any further than what I said last week. As soon as I have some further news, I will be sure to update her.

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock Portrait Lord Foulkes of Cumnock (Lab Co-op)
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My Lords, as the Minister knows from last week, I was inclined to agree with the noble Lord, Lord Teverson, that it is good for Ministers to go out to Dubai. But then I heard that there are 90,000 delegates there—nearly twice as many as there were in Glasgow, all flying in. It will be the same next year, the year after that and the year after that. Why can this COP not be held virtually?

Lord Callanan Portrait Lord Callanan (Con)
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I think there is considerable sympathy for the noble Lord’s point of view. I went to the COP in Glasgow. Unlike the Greens, I went by rail.