Debates between Lord Empey and Earl of Minto during the 2019 Parliament

809 Naval Air Squadron

Debate between Lord Empey and Earl of Minto
Monday 11th March 2024

(1 month, 3 weeks ago)

Lords Chamber
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Earl of Minto Portrait The Earl of Minto (Con)
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The noble Lord is quite right; I did say up to 12. The whole point of this is that the forces we have need to be flexible and interchangeable. By the end of 2025, we will have two squadrons in full operation. We will have 48 aircraft by the end of 2025, and I am assured that there will be up to 12 aircraft in each squadron which are capable at any one time. I am absolutely certain that there will be a lot more than two in each.

Lord Empey Portrait Lord Empey (UUP)
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My Lords, is my noble friend happy that we have chosen a situation where there is only one aircraft in the world that can fly off our carriers? It is a very expensive aircraft which is in short supply. Is it not inevitable that we will have to modify these aircraft carriers so that they can fly off catapult-launched aircraft?

Earl of Minto Portrait The Earl of Minto (Con)
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My Lords, the noble Lord has greater knowledge than I have in this area. As far as the Lightning is concerned, we are fully committed to the 138, as we originally set out. We will have 48 by the end of 2025 and another 27 by the early 2030s. As far as flexibility on the aircraft is concerned, I shall have to find out the full detail and write.