Debates between Lord Ashton of Hyde and Baroness Turner of Camden during the 2010-2015 Parliament

Employment Tribunals

Debate between Lord Ashton of Hyde and Baroness Turner of Camden
Thursday 12th March 2015

(9 years, 8 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Baroness Turner of Camden Portrait Baroness Turner of Camden
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To ask Her Majesty’s Government whether they will review the recent changes in the procedures to access tribunal hearings, and whether these changes have been beneficial to employees.

Lord Ashton of Hyde Portrait Lord Ashton of Hyde (Con)
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My Lords, as part of a series of employment tribunal reforms, early conciliation was introduced in April 2014. It provides a robust mechanism to resolve employment disputes without the formalities of a courtroom setting. We are closely monitoring the implementation and effectiveness of early conciliation, and initial signs are encouraging. ACAS has already recorded nearly 60,000 employee notifications, with more than 90% of those involved willing to give the service a try.

Baroness Turner of Camden Portrait Baroness Turner of Camden (Lab)
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My Lords, I thank the Minister for that response, but there are still instances where people want to take their case to a tribunal but can do so only if they are able to pay a fee of as much as £1,000 to get a hearing. That is quite unacceptable. Do the Government think that if people cannot afford to pay that to get their hearing they should simply put up with the situation as it is and get on with it? I do not think that that is acceptable, and certainly it is not beneficial to the employee. The bad employer may quite like it, but the good employer does not, and an employee who is disabled and generally upset really would like to get a hearing before a tribunal.

Lord Ashton of Hyde Portrait Lord Ashton of Hyde
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My Lords, the point of early conciliation is to encourage claimants not to go to an employment tribunal. Ninety per cent of employees agree with the system and want to work with the conciliation service. Under the new arrangements, 60.5% of cases that went to early conciliation did not proceed to an employment tribunal, and 16.3% of cases were settled. For those who want to go to an employment tribunal, there is a fee remission system based on savings. Broadly, people whose monthly income is below a certain level do not have to pay. Anyone who receives means-tested benefits does not have to pay or gets a reduced fee.

Lord Ashton of Hyde Portrait Lord Ashton of Hyde
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I take the noble Lord’s point. If people are ordered to pay awards, they should pay them. We are going to implement a review—or the next Government are—and that is something that can be considered at that time.

Baroness Turner of Camden Portrait Baroness Turner of Camden
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Why cannot the Minister simply agree to review—?