All 1 Debates between Lord Ahmed and Lord Lloyd of Berwick

Wed 19th Dec 2012

Defamation Bill

Debate between Lord Ahmed and Lord Lloyd of Berwick
Wednesday 19th December 2012

(11 years, 11 months ago)

Grand Committee
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Lord Lloyd of Berwick Portrait Lord Lloyd of Berwick
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Regretfully noting such a thing is not enough. I was promised a reply and it did not come. Something more than noting is required.

Lord Ahmed Portrait Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon
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I thank the noble and learned Lord for his suggestion, but if I had been able to finish my sentence, I was going to say that I apologise regarding the commitment made and, as I said, we will be writing to him quite specifically on the issue that he has raised.

I turn to the matters that the noble and learned Lord raised. Amendment 13 provides for this condition to be met if, in commenting on a letter or article in a newspaper, the defendant identifies the subject matter of the letter or article and the date on which it appeared. This situation is already covered by subsection (3). If the statement indicates that the basis for the opinion is what was said in a particular letter or article that has previously been published, then that would enable the claimant to read the letter or article and assess the nature of the criticism, and the test would thereby be met.

The noble and learned Lord referred to a particular case. I am mindful of the great expertise not just around the table but in the array of judicial expertise engaged in the particular case to which he referred and in which he was involved, as he pointed out. I would hesitate at this point to express a view on the rights and wrongs, but what I can say is that Clause 3(3) reflects the test that was subsequently approved by the Supreme Court in Spiller v Joseph, and that covers the circumstances that are set out in the noble and learned Lord’s amendment.