Debates between Liam Byrne and Simon Hoare during the 2015-2017 Parliament

Local Government Finance (England)

Debate between Liam Byrne and Simon Hoare
Wednesday 10th February 2016

(8 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Simon Hoare Portrait Simon Hoare
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My hon. Friend is right. Frankly, the Opposition party has been rumbled on this. Let us not kid ourselves, this remains, even after the welcome announcement made by the Minister on Monday, a tough settlement. It leaves an unfair and unsustainable gap between funding for rural and urban areas. That continues. It has just been made a little less tough. There is no golden goose being given to Tory local government.

Liam Byrne Portrait Liam Byrne
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I hope that the hon. Gentleman will take back the point about synthetic rage. If other hon. Members had a hospital such as the one in my constituency, which is £54 million in deficit, and where delayed discharges are up 1,000% in a year because of public funding cuts, they would have a responsibility to stand up and say, “Think carefully about how you distribute money.” If they are representing a city such as Birmingham where there is another £92 million to come out of social care on top of the crisis that is already there, then, collectively as a country, we have a problem. I hope that the hon. Gentleman will take back his comment and recognise that there are genuine questions about the distribution mechanisms being put forward by the Secretary of State.

Simon Hoare Portrait Simon Hoare
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If Birmingham City Council is funding its local hospital, it might explain some of its problems. That is not a responsibility of the city council. I do not know how the right hon. Gentleman has the brass neck to stand and ask Government Members to retract comments when the note he left in the Treasury continues to hang like an albatross around his and his party’s neck.

Liam Byrne Portrait Liam Byrne
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On that point—

Simon Hoare Portrait Simon Hoare
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I will not give way to him.

Liam Byrne Portrait Liam Byrne
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It is because he is frit.

Simon Hoare Portrait Simon Hoare
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No. Of the right hon. Gentleman, I am never frit. Of course I will give way.

Liam Byrne Portrait Liam Byrne
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I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, who is being courteous and collegiate in giving way. He will also remember that I left a Budget that was going to halve the deficit over the course of the Parliament, which his Chancellor has still failed to achieve.

Simon Hoare Portrait Simon Hoare
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The right hon. Gentleman has obviously been to Specsavers—he has the rose-tinted glasses and he is looking through a completely different Labour history.