Debates between Lord Spellar and Baroness Chapman of Darlington during the 2024 Parliament

Thu 5th Dec 2024
Wed 13th Nov 2024

Ukraine

Debate between Lord Spellar and Baroness Chapman of Darlington
Thursday 5th December 2024

(2 weeks, 4 days ago)

Lords Chamber
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Baroness Chapman of Darlington Portrait Baroness Chapman of Darlington (Lab)
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The most reverend Primate is correct. We do not want Ukraine to wait for the SDR, which is why we have already committed substantial sums: £3 billion per year for as long as Ukraine needs it, plus £5 billion in non-military support. As he says, this conflict is felt most keenly in Ukraine, but the uncertainty, anxiety and decisions now being made in other states as a consequence of what has happened in Ukraine need to be considered very carefully too.

Lord Spellar Portrait Lord Spellar (Lab)
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My Lords—

West Papua

Debate between Lord Spellar and Baroness Chapman of Darlington
Wednesday 13th November 2024

(1 month, 1 week ago)

Lords Chamber
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Baroness Chapman of Darlington Portrait Baroness Chapman of Darlington (Lab)
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I think the international community is aware of the situation in Papua, hence the interest from the United Nations. We will continue to work through that method, and bilaterally, to raise the issues that we are all so concerned about.

Lord Spellar Portrait Lord Spellar (Lab)
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My Lord, I congratulate the Minister on the very measured approach that she is taking. Can she reassure us that the Foreign Office recognises the crucial importance of Indonesia, which is the fourth most populous nation in the world, the most populous Muslim nation, and a crucial part of the economic and security infrastructure in the Indo-Pacific? While we make those representations, can we also advance our relationship?

Baroness Chapman of Darlington Portrait Baroness Chapman of Darlington (Lab)
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Whenever possible, influence should be gained through a good relationship and, sometimes, by being a critical friend. The noble Lord’s points about the wider Indo-Pacific and the security situation are things that a responsible Government here in the UK need to take into account.