Occupied Palestinian Territories: Israeli Settlements

Debate between John Howell and Lord Austin of Dudley
Thursday 9th February 2017

(7 years, 4 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Lord Austin of Dudley Portrait Ian Austin
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Not at the moment.

Settlements do not, as has been suggested in the debate, make the prospect of a two-state solution impossible. I do not defend settlement-building, but the House should recognise that Israel has shown its willingness to evacuate settlements before—from Sinai in 1982, as part of the Camp David accords, and when it unilaterally withdrew from Gaza in 2005.

John Howell Portrait John Howell
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Will the hon. Gentleman congratulate Israel, because only last month it removed 50 families from land at Amona?

Lord Austin of Dudley Portrait Ian Austin
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The hon. Gentleman is completely right to raise that important point. I am pleased that it has been raised because it has not been discussed or mentioned by anyone who has spoken so far.

It is important for the House to recognise that 75% of the settlers are on 6.3% of the land, so when people talk about the west bank being concreted over, they are factually wrong—it is not true.

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John Howell Portrait John Howell
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My hon. Friend is absolutely right. The number of Arab children treated by the Israeli doctors at the hospital is phenomenal, and it sets a brilliant example for the whole region.

Lord Austin of Dudley Portrait Ian Austin
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I want to emphasise this point—[Interruption.] My hon. Friend the Member for Hammersmith (Andy Slaughter) is laughing and sneering in his usual way, but he ought to listen to this point, because it is really important. The truth is that we come into debates such as this one and hear a binary—[Interruption.] Madam Deputy Speaker, hon. Members can shout as much as they like, but I am going to speak.

Lord Austin of Dudley Portrait Ian Austin
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Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. We hear a binary, simplistic, polarised debate, when the truth about Israel and Palestine is that people on the ground are working together, co-operating, talking and building the peace process that we all want to see. It is about time people listened to that argument instead of laughing at it.

John Howell Portrait John Howell
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I thank the hon. Gentleman kindly for his comments. I was about to come on to that.

Child Prisoners and Detainees: Occupied Palestinian Territories

Debate between John Howell and Lord Austin of Dudley
Wednesday 6th January 2016

(8 years, 5 months ago)

Westminster Hall
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John Howell Portrait John Howell
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No, the nub of this issue is that Palestinian incitement continues. As long as it does, we will not get peace in the area. We have to end the Palestinian incitement. I urge the Foreign Office to take action on that.

Lord Austin of Dudley Portrait Ian Austin
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Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

John Howell Portrait John Howell
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I will not give way; I will finish there.