Debates between Geoffrey Clifton-Brown and Angela Smith during the 2015-2017 Parliament

Badger Culling/Bovine TB

Debate between Geoffrey Clifton-Brown and Angela Smith
Wednesday 7th September 2016

(8 years, 1 month ago)

Westminster Hall
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Geoffrey Clifton-Brown Portrait Geoffrey Clifton-Brown
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I invited the hon. Lady, when she was the shadow Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Minister, to come to my constituency and meet some of these farmers, and I invite her to come and meet some of the people who have been involved in this licensing programme. She will find out the hours, days and weeks they have had to spend on this to get a licence. She will be amazed.

Angela Smith Portrait Angela Smith
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The hon. Gentleman is kind to give way. Does he believe that free shooting is acceptable?

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown Portrait Geoffrey Clifton-Brown
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I believe that the best way to cull badgers is with traps. Unfortunately in Gloucestershire, protesters have removed and damaged traps, which has made it essential to have free shooting in our armoury, as well as shooting badgers in traps. If there were no interference with the traps, I believe we could—as they have done in Somerset—operate culls on a much greater basis by caging badgers.

I repeat that the 25-year elimination strategy that the Government have announced is exactly right. We must use all the tools in our armoury, including ring vaccination, culls, vaccinations and, indeed, as the hon. Member for Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross said, tightening biosecurity. On farms, we legally have to do so. Every year DEFRA has tightened biosecurity, the regulations on pre and post-movement of cattle and the regulations on skin testing. Those are the directions in which we need to go, but we need to eliminate this terrible disease.