Debates between Desmond Swayne and Keir Starmer during the 2019-2024 Parliament

Wed 18th Aug 2021

Afghanistan

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Keir Starmer
Wednesday 18th August 2021

(3 years, 3 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Keir Starmer Portrait Keir Starmer
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There is huge concern, as all hon. Members will know, about our line of sight beyond Kabul at the moment. Again, that calls into question where the 5,000 number comes from, because at the moment we are not even in a position to assess the position outside Kabul. We cannot betray our friends. We must lead.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Were the Government of this kingdom to be overthrown by a wicked and brutal regime, I venture that the right hon. and learned Gentleman would want a leading role in the resistance. He would not be queuing at the airport, would he?

Keir Starmer Portrait Keir Starmer
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When I was Director of Public Prosecutions, some of my prosecutors in Afghanistan were at huge risk, working on counter-terrorism with other brave souls there, so I will not take that from the right hon. Gentleman or from anybody else.

Once the immediate challenges are addressed, we face an uncertain and difficult future. The Taliban are back in control and we cannot be naive about the consequences. We have lost our primary source of leverage in political discussions, and everything that we have achieved in the past 20 years is now under threat.