Debates between Carolyn Harris and Alun Cairns during the 2015-2017 Parliament

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Carolyn Harris and Alun Cairns
Wednesday 19th October 2016

(8 years, 2 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Alun Cairns Portrait Alun Cairns
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My hon. Friend, like me, looks forward to the Charles Hendry report. There is no doubt that, as a test project, it has great potential for Swansea bay, but he, like me, has an obligation to the taxpayer to ensure that it works for consumers and taxpayers, and that it represents good value for money for all concerned.

Carolyn Harris Portrait Carolyn Harris (Swansea East) (Lab)
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13. Having taken a bloody nose for Hinkley and a black eye for fracking, is it not about time that this Government took an energy decision that enjoys the full support of this House and of the population at large? Why hold up any further the British-made, British-owned tidal lagoon projects that could change the fortunes not only of Wales, but of manufacturing businesses across the country?

Alun Cairns Portrait Alun Cairns
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The hon. Lady and I agree that we would like something like that to be developed and to go ahead for the prospects and opportunities it will provide, but we have an obligation to the taxpayer: we have to ensure that it provides value for money. Only in recent weeks, the hon. Lady and her colleagues have complained about the cost of energy for Tata and other energy-intensive industries. It is important that we generate energy in a cost-effective way that suits consumers as well as taxpayers.

Wales Bill

Debate between Carolyn Harris and Alun Cairns
Tuesday 14th June 2016

(8 years, 6 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Alun Cairns Portrait Alun Cairns
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I am somewhat disappointed by the tone the hon. Gentleman is taking. We have developed the Bill through consensus. We have responded to the comments that were made following the publication of the draft Bill, and before that we had the St David’s day agreement, in which his party was an active participant. We have sought to develop political consensus, but ultimately we do not have a uniform approach to devolution. What is right for Scotland is not necessarily right for Northern Ireland or for Wales. Clearly we have different circumstances and needs, and we should respond to those needs by developing appropriate Bills. I hope that the hon. Gentleman will actively participate and seek to improve the Bill through the parliamentary process; I am determined to achieve a Bill that all Members of the House will be at best satisfied with.

Carolyn Harris Portrait Carolyn Harris (Swansea East) (Lab)
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In February, the Secretary of State’s predecessor said:

“A lot of the criticism of the draft Bill has been ill-informed or just plain wrong.”

Given that the Government have accepted most of the criticism and amended the Bill, does the Secretary of State agree that his predecessor was wrong?

Alun Cairns Portrait Alun Cairns
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It is right to say that part of the criticism was certainly ill informed and will have been wrong, but that does not necessarily mean that all the other elements of the scrutiny were wrong. One of the purposes of publishing a draft Bill was to encourage active scrutiny by the Welsh Affairs Committee, of which the hon. Lady is an active member. We are grateful for her input and that of the Committee.

We have made a commitment to put in place a clearer, stronger and fairer devolution settlement for Wales, and that is exactly what the Bill does. The St David’s day process established “Powers for a Purpose”—that is, powers that can make a real, practical difference to the lives of the people in Wales. Among the many powers devolved in the Bill are those that will enable the Assembly to decide the speed limits on Welsh roads; how taxis and buses in Wales should be regulated; whether fracking should take place and, if so, how it should be regulated; and how planning consent is given for all but the most strategic energy projects.

Welsh Affairs

Debate between Carolyn Harris and Alun Cairns
Thursday 3rd March 2016

(8 years, 9 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Carolyn Harris Portrait Carolyn Harris (Swansea East) (Lab)
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We have become very accustomed to waiting for things in Wales. We waited a very long time for rail electrification, we waited patiently to get the Welsh national football team into the Euros, and we waited a very long time for a Welsh premier league football club, but now Swansea City is there. Today, we waited a very long time for the Secretary of State to make an appearance in this very important debate. Either our performances are not up to scratch or he has had a better offer, because he has chosen to leave the Chamber.

Alun Cairns Portrait The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Wales (Alun Cairns)
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I am happy to announce to the hon. Lady that the Secretary of State has an important telephone conversation with the Minister for Economy, Science and Transport in the Welsh Government.

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Carolyn Harris and Alun Cairns
Wednesday 13th January 2016

(8 years, 11 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Carolyn Harris Portrait Carolyn Harris (Swansea East) (Lab)
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4. What discussions he has had with the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport on future funding of S4C.

Alun Cairns Portrait The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Wales (Alun Cairns)
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The Secretary of State and I have regular discussions with Cabinet colleagues which provide opportunities to discuss a range of issues, including matters related to the funding of services across Wales such as the future funding of S4C.

Alun Cairns Portrait Alun Cairns
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We will meet our manifesto commitment to

“safeguard the funding and editorial independence of S4C.”

The hon. Gentleman will have heard the Prime Minister say that we would

“meet…the wording and spirit of our manifesto commitment.”—[Official Report, 6 January 2016; Vol. 604, c. 281.]

He will also remember that on the evening before there was a debate proposed by my hon. Friend the Member for Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire (Simon Hart) to which the Minister for Culture and the Digital Economy responded by saying that he was looking at the arguments and keen to engage positively.

Carolyn Harris Portrait Carolyn Harris
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I am grateful to the Minister for mentioning last Tuesday’s debate because I too want to talk about the wonderful consensus that broke out in the Chamber regarding S4C’s funding. Given that consensus, will he remind his colleagues at DCMS that he has a statutory duty to protect S4C’s funding? Will he also join us in offering his personal support for an independent review of S4C?

Alun Cairns Portrait Alun Cairns
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The hon. Lady took part in that debate and she will recognise the way in which the Minister responded. He said that he was listening to the arguments and that he wanted to engage as positively as he could. I hope that she recognises the spirit in which that was intended.

Barnett Floor (Wales)

Debate between Carolyn Harris and Alun Cairns
Tuesday 10th November 2015

(9 years, 1 month ago)

Westminster Hall
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Alun Cairns Portrait Alun Cairns
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The figures of £7 billion to £16 billion have been repeated time and again, but Holtham identified that during that period Wales’s relative position was worse. As I have said, the changes made over the past five years have put current spending in Wales within the Holtham range, as acknowledged by the Welsh Government.

Carolyn Harris Portrait Carolyn Harris
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Will the Minister assure this Chamber that Wales will not be further disadvantaged in the upcoming spending review?

Alun Cairns Portrait Alun Cairns
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The spending review is a matter for the Chancellor. We, as a Conservative Government, are delivering on our commitment to introduce the Barnett floor, as we have announced, alongside the spending review. That commitment was repeated in our manifesto and the floor will be introduced, as announced.