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14 Jul 2025 - Employment Rights Bill - View Vote Context Baroness Penn voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 142 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 161 Noes - 191 |
14 Jul 2025 - Employment Rights Bill - View Vote Context Baroness Penn voted Aye - in line with the party majority and in line with the House One of 148 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 232 Noes - 137 |
14 Jul 2025 - Employment Rights Bill - View Vote Context Baroness Penn voted Aye - in line with the party majority and in line with the House One of 173 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 267 Noes - 153 |
14 Jul 2025 - Employment Rights Bill - View Vote Context Baroness Penn voted Aye - in line with the party majority and in line with the House One of 171 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 264 Noes - 158 |
16 Jul 2025 - Employment Rights Bill - View Vote Context Baroness Penn voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 61 Conservative Aye votes vs 1 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 124 Noes - 131 |
16 Jul 2025 - Employment Rights Bill - View Vote Context Baroness Penn voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 136 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 148 Noes - 155 |
16 Jul 2025 - Employment Rights Bill - View Vote Context Baroness Penn voted Aye - in line with the party majority and in line with the House One of 135 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 184 Noes - 123 |
16 Jul 2025 - Employment Rights Bill - View Vote Context Baroness Penn voted Aye - in line with the party majority and in line with the House One of 140 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 202 Noes - 138 |
16 Jul 2025 - Employment Rights Bill - View Vote Context Baroness Penn voted Aye - in line with the party majority and in line with the House One of 134 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 180 Noes - 123 |
16 Jul 2025 - Employment Rights Bill - View Vote Context Baroness Penn voted Aye - in line with the party majority and in line with the House One of 197 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 304 Noes - 160 |
16 Jul 2025 - Employment Rights Bill - View Vote Context Baroness Penn voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 31 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 100 Noes - 136 |
16 Jul 2025 - Employment Rights Bill - View Vote Context Baroness Penn voted Aye - in line with the party majority and in line with the House One of 178 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 248 Noes - 150 |
21 Jul 2025 - Employment Rights Bill - View Vote Context Baroness Penn voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 75 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 92 Noes - 130 |
21 Jul 2025 - Employment Rights Bill - View Vote Context Baroness Penn voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 92 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 106 Noes - 140 |
21 Jul 2025 - Employment Rights Bill - View Vote Context Baroness Penn voted Aye - in line with the party majority and in line with the House One of 160 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 216 Noes - 143 |
21 Jul 2025 - Employment Rights Bill - View Vote Context Baroness Penn voted Aye - in line with the party majority and in line with the House One of 191 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 266 Noes - 162 |
23 Jul 2025 - Employment Rights Bill - View Vote Context Baroness Penn voted Aye - in line with the party majority and in line with the House One of 173 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 271 Noes - 138 |
23 Jul 2025 - Employment Rights Bill - View Vote Context Baroness Penn voted Aye - in line with the party majority and in line with the House One of 181 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 290 Noes - 143 |
23 Jul 2025 - Employment Rights Bill - View Vote Context Baroness Penn voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 148 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 171 Noes - 189 |
23 Jul 2025 - Employment Rights Bill - View Vote Context Baroness Penn voted Aye - in line with the party majority and against the House One of 171 Conservative Aye votes vs 0 Conservative No votes Tally: Ayes - 198 Noes - 198 |
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Baroness Penn speeches from: Employment Rights Bill
Baroness Penn contributed 3 speeches (983 words) Report stage Wednesday 16th July 2025 - Lords Chamber Home Office |
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Parental Pay
Asked by: Baroness Penn (Conservative - Life peer) Friday 25th July 2025 Question to the HM Treasury: To ask His Majesty's Government how many payments of statutory (1) maternity, (2) paternity, and (3) adoption, pay were reclaimed from His Majesty's Revenue and Customs at (a) the standard rate of 92 per cent, and (b) the Small Employers' Relief rate of 108.5 per cent, in each of the last 10 tax years. Answered by Lord Livermore - Financial Secretary (HM Treasury) Data for statutory payments for the financial year 2024-25 has not yet been fully analysed as the financial year has only recently ended. Data for financial years 2019-20 until 2023-24 is provided below. HMRC do not have data readily available for Statutory payments before 2019-20 and the relevant data could only be collated and verified for the purpose of answering this question at disproportionate cost. The tables below show the number of PAYE schemes claiming each statutory payment by tax year. Note that the scheme count for reclaims does not reflect the total number of reclaims, as schemes may submit multiple claims within a single tax year.
Notes: 1) Data collected using HMRC Real Time Information (RTI) and extracted in December 2024. RTI is subject to revision or updates. 2) PAYE scheme counts have been rounded to nearest 100. 3) The table shows the count of PAYE schemes with reclaims, using schemes as a proxy for business count.
Notes: 1) Data collected using HMRC Real Time Information (RTI) and extracted in December 2024. RTI is subject to revision or updates. 2) PAYE scheme counts have been rounded to nearest 100. 3) The table shows the count of PAYE schemes with reclaims, using schemes as a proxy for business count.
Notes: 1) Data collected using HMRC Real Time Information (RTI) and extracted in December 2024. RTI is subject to revision or updates. 2) PAYE scheme counts have been rounded to nearest 100. 3) The table shows the count of PAYE schemes with reclaims, using schemes as a proxy for business count.
The data below summarises the total number of employers with Employer National Insurance Contributions (NICs) liabilities of £45,000 or less for the financial years 2022–23 to 2024–25. HMRC does not hold readily available data on the number of employers by the value of their total Employer NIC liabilities for years prior to 2022–23, and the relevant data could only be collated and verified for the purpose of answering this question at disproportionate cost.
Notes: 1) Figures rounded to nearest thousand. 2) Figures include employers whose Employer NIC liabilities = £0 3) Figures exclude employers whose Employer NIC liabilities are unknown. 4) Data is RTI data matched to Business Lookup Table data.
The Small Employer’s Relief is a flat rate for all qualifying employers whose Employer National Insurance Contributions (Employer NICs) were £45,000 or under in the previous tax year. The rate is split into two parts; 100% of the payment of Statutory Pay, plus an additional amount to cover the Employer NIC liabilities arising from the Statutory Pay. It is calculated based on the rules for Statutory Maternity Pay, which makes up the majority of the claims received. Statutory Maternity Pay level is equal to 90% of average weekly earnings for the first 6 weeks, and the lower of £187.18 and 90% of average weekly earnings for the subsequent 33 weeks. [N.B. Taken from here: https://www.gov.uk/maternity-pay-leave/pay] Prior to April 2025, the Small Employer’s Relief rate was 103%. From April 2025, Employer NICs is charged at a rate of 15% on earnings salary over £96 a week (equivalent to £5,000 a year). The 8.5% therefore reflects the value of Employer NICs at the current rate as a percentage of Statutory Maternity Pay over the 39 weeks the employee is eligible for. |
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Business: National Insurance Contributions
Asked by: Baroness Penn (Conservative - Life peer) Friday 25th July 2025 Question to the HM Treasury: To ask His Majesty's Government what estimate they have made of the number of businesses who have class 1 National Insurance contributions of £45,000 or less in each of the past 10 tax years. Answered by Lord Livermore - Financial Secretary (HM Treasury) Data for statutory payments for the financial year 2024-25 has not yet been fully analysed as the financial year has only recently ended. Data for financial years 2019-20 until 2023-24 is provided below. HMRC do not have data readily available for Statutory payments before 2019-20 and the relevant data could only be collated and verified for the purpose of answering this question at disproportionate cost. The tables below show the number of PAYE schemes claiming each statutory payment by tax year. Note that the scheme count for reclaims does not reflect the total number of reclaims, as schemes may submit multiple claims within a single tax year.
Notes: 1) Data collected using HMRC Real Time Information (RTI) and extracted in December 2024. RTI is subject to revision or updates. 2) PAYE scheme counts have been rounded to nearest 100. 3) The table shows the count of PAYE schemes with reclaims, using schemes as a proxy for business count.
Notes: 1) Data collected using HMRC Real Time Information (RTI) and extracted in December 2024. RTI is subject to revision or updates. 2) PAYE scheme counts have been rounded to nearest 100. 3) The table shows the count of PAYE schemes with reclaims, using schemes as a proxy for business count.
Notes: 1) Data collected using HMRC Real Time Information (RTI) and extracted in December 2024. RTI is subject to revision or updates. 2) PAYE scheme counts have been rounded to nearest 100. 3) The table shows the count of PAYE schemes with reclaims, using schemes as a proxy for business count.
The data below summarises the total number of employers with Employer National Insurance Contributions (NICs) liabilities of £45,000 or less for the financial years 2022–23 to 2024–25. HMRC does not hold readily available data on the number of employers by the value of their total Employer NIC liabilities for years prior to 2022–23, and the relevant data could only be collated and verified for the purpose of answering this question at disproportionate cost.
Notes: 1) Figures rounded to nearest thousand. 2) Figures include employers whose Employer NIC liabilities = £0 3) Figures exclude employers whose Employer NIC liabilities are unknown. 4) Data is RTI data matched to Business Lookup Table data.
The Small Employer’s Relief is a flat rate for all qualifying employers whose Employer National Insurance Contributions (Employer NICs) were £45,000 or under in the previous tax year. The rate is split into two parts; 100% of the payment of Statutory Pay, plus an additional amount to cover the Employer NIC liabilities arising from the Statutory Pay. It is calculated based on the rules for Statutory Maternity Pay, which makes up the majority of the claims received. Statutory Maternity Pay level is equal to 90% of average weekly earnings for the first 6 weeks, and the lower of £187.18 and 90% of average weekly earnings for the subsequent 33 weeks. [N.B. Taken from here: https://www.gov.uk/maternity-pay-leave/pay] Prior to April 2025, the Small Employer’s Relief rate was 103%. From April 2025, Employer NICs is charged at a rate of 15% on earnings salary over £96 a week (equivalent to £5,000 a year). The 8.5% therefore reflects the value of Employer NICs at the current rate as a percentage of Statutory Maternity Pay over the 39 weeks the employee is eligible for. |
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Small Businesses: Parental Pay
Asked by: Baroness Penn (Conservative - Life peer) Friday 25th July 2025 Question to the HM Treasury: To ask His Majesty's Government why the specific figure of 108.5 per cent was decided upon for the rate at which Small Employers' Relief is paid. Answered by Lord Livermore - Financial Secretary (HM Treasury) Data for statutory payments for the financial year 2024-25 has not yet been fully analysed as the financial year has only recently ended. Data for financial years 2019-20 until 2023-24 is provided below. HMRC do not have data readily available for Statutory payments before 2019-20 and the relevant data could only be collated and verified for the purpose of answering this question at disproportionate cost. The tables below show the number of PAYE schemes claiming each statutory payment by tax year. Note that the scheme count for reclaims does not reflect the total number of reclaims, as schemes may submit multiple claims within a single tax year.
Notes: 1) Data collected using HMRC Real Time Information (RTI) and extracted in December 2024. RTI is subject to revision or updates. 2) PAYE scheme counts have been rounded to nearest 100. 3) The table shows the count of PAYE schemes with reclaims, using schemes as a proxy for business count.
Notes: 1) Data collected using HMRC Real Time Information (RTI) and extracted in December 2024. RTI is subject to revision or updates. 2) PAYE scheme counts have been rounded to nearest 100. 3) The table shows the count of PAYE schemes with reclaims, using schemes as a proxy for business count.
Notes: 1) Data collected using HMRC Real Time Information (RTI) and extracted in December 2024. RTI is subject to revision or updates. 2) PAYE scheme counts have been rounded to nearest 100. 3) The table shows the count of PAYE schemes with reclaims, using schemes as a proxy for business count.
The data below summarises the total number of employers with Employer National Insurance Contributions (NICs) liabilities of £45,000 or less for the financial years 2022–23 to 2024–25. HMRC does not hold readily available data on the number of employers by the value of their total Employer NIC liabilities for years prior to 2022–23, and the relevant data could only be collated and verified for the purpose of answering this question at disproportionate cost.
Notes: 1) Figures rounded to nearest thousand. 2) Figures include employers whose Employer NIC liabilities = £0 3) Figures exclude employers whose Employer NIC liabilities are unknown. 4) Data is RTI data matched to Business Lookup Table data.
The Small Employer’s Relief is a flat rate for all qualifying employers whose Employer National Insurance Contributions (Employer NICs) were £45,000 or under in the previous tax year. The rate is split into two parts; 100% of the payment of Statutory Pay, plus an additional amount to cover the Employer NIC liabilities arising from the Statutory Pay. It is calculated based on the rules for Statutory Maternity Pay, which makes up the majority of the claims received. Statutory Maternity Pay level is equal to 90% of average weekly earnings for the first 6 weeks, and the lower of £187.18 and 90% of average weekly earnings for the subsequent 33 weeks. [N.B. Taken from here: https://www.gov.uk/maternity-pay-leave/pay] Prior to April 2025, the Small Employer’s Relief rate was 103%. From April 2025, Employer NICs is charged at a rate of 15% on earnings salary over £96 a week (equivalent to £5,000 a year). The 8.5% therefore reflects the value of Employer NICs at the current rate as a percentage of Statutory Maternity Pay over the 39 weeks the employee is eligible for. |
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Small Businesses: Parental Pay
Asked by: Baroness Penn (Conservative - Life peer) Friday 1st August 2025 Question to the Department for Work and Pensions: To ask His Majesty's Government when the threshold for qualifying for Small Employers' Relief was last up-rated, and from what level. Answered by Baroness Sherlock - Minister of State (Department for Work and Pensions) Small employers (those who have gross Class 1 National Insurance contributions liability of £45,000 or less in the previous tax year) can claim what is known as Small Employers Relief and can recover 100 percent of Statutory Maternity Pay they have paid out plus an additional compensation payment. This additional compensation payment is known as Small Employers’ Compensation and seeks to support small employers with the associated costs of having an employee on maternity leave which are not thought to affect large employers in the same way, such as the employer’s share of National Insurance contributions that might be payable, as well as administration and recruitment costs. The same reimbursement arrangements apply to Statutory Paternity Pay, Statutory Shared Parental Pay, Statutory Adoption Pay, Statutory Parental Bereavement Pay and Statutory Neonatal Care Pay. The threshold for qualifying as a small employer was increased in April 2004 from £40,000 to £45,000 (or less) of gross Class 1 National Insurance contributions liability in the previous tax year. |
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Pre-school Education: Employers' Contributions
Asked by: Baroness Penn (Conservative - Life peer) Monday 15th September 2025 Question to the HM Treasury: To ask His Majesty's Government what estimate they have made of the cost to early years education providers of the changes to employer National Insurance contributions announced in the Autumn Budget 2024 (HC 295). Answered by Lord Livermore - Financial Secretary (HM Treasury) The Government has taken a number of difficult but necessary decisions on tax, welfare, and spending to repair the public finances, rebuild public services, and restore economic stability after the situation we inherited from the previous government. The Government has protected the smallest businesses from the impact of the increase to employers’ National Insurance by increasing the Employment Allowance from £5,000 to £10,500, which means that 865,000 employers will pay no employer NICs at all next year.
Early years providers play a crucial role in driving economic growth and that is why we have committed to delivering the expansion of government-funded childcare and invested £370m at the Spending Review in opening 3,000 new school-based nurseries in this parliament.
At the Budget in October 2024, the Chancellor announced that total funding will rise to over £8 billion in 2025-26 on early years entitlements, followed by an announcement at the Spending review of an additional £1.6bn per year by 2028-29. On top of this, the Department for Education confirmed an additional £75 million of funding in 2025-26 to support the childcare sector to deliver the final phase of expanded childcare entitlements from September 2025, alongside a further £25 million to support childcare for disadvantaged children through the early years pupil premium. |
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Maternity Leave
Asked by: Baroness Penn (Conservative - Life peer) Friday 12th September 2025 Question to the Department for Business and Trade: To ask His Majesty's Government what estimate they have made of the average length of maternity leave broken down by income decile. Answered by Lord Leong - Lord in Waiting (HM Household) (Whip) We have not made a direct estimate of the average length of Maternity Leave broken down by income decile. The 2019 Parental Rights Survey asked mothers the total number of weeks of paid or unpaid maternity leave that they took (or planned to take) broken down by household income bands. This data is available in Table 30 of the mothers data tables here - https://www.employment-studies.co.uk/resource/parental-rights-survey-2019. In addition, the most recent HMRC statutory payments data was released as part of the Parental Leave review. This information is published here - https://www.gov.uk/government/calls-for-evidence/parental-leave-and-pay-review-call-for-evidence - and includes a breakdown of individuals receiving Statutory Maternity Pay by income decile (Table 15) and separately by the number of months the payment spanned (Table 21). |
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16 Jul 2025, 8:41 p.m. - House of Lords "Amendment 100, Baroness Penn. >> I beg to move MM at 100 in my " Amendment 100 - View Video - View Transcript |
16 Jul 2025, 8:48 p.m. - House of Lords "pay full stop amendment 100. >> I'm grateful to Baroness Penn for building on the amendments that she " Baroness Penn (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
16 Jul 2025, 8:53 p.m. - House of Lords "speak in support of amendment 100. I will be very brief as Baroness Penn and Baroness Lister have already set out the case for the amendment so " Lord Aberdare (Crossbench) - View Video - View Transcript |
16 Jul 2025, 8:54 p.m. - House of Lords "welcome, but as Baroness Penn has said, the review must lead to action. We also heard evidence of the financial benefits for businesses as well as the economy as " Lord Aberdare (Crossbench) - View Video - View Transcript |
16 Jul 2025, 9:02 p.m. - House of Lords "my Noble Friend Baroness Penn is amendment 100. But I will be very brief and I think the thing that " - View Video - View Transcript |
16 Jul 2025, 9:02 p.m. - House of Lords ">> I would like to add my support to my Noble Friend Baroness Penn is " Baroness Sugg (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
16 Jul 2025, 9:02 p.m. - House of Lords "108 posted by my Noble Friend Baroness Penn. I want to focus on the societal and the class element of this. I come from a community " - View Video - View Transcript |
16 Jul 2025, 9:06 p.m. - House of Lords ">> My Lords, I rise to support this amendment which I have signed as a support to Baroness Penn. And I " Lord Palmer of Childs Hill (Liberal Democrat) - View Video - View Transcript |
16 Jul 2025, 9:06 p.m. - House of Lords "support to Baroness Penn. And I could add a lot to what many Noble " Lord Palmer of Childs Hill (Liberal Democrat) - View Video - View Transcript |
16 Jul 2025, 9:07 p.m. - House of Lords " I am grateful to my Noble Friend Baroness Penn for bringing forward " Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
16 Jul 2025, 9:10 p.m. - House of Lords "Newcastle the Noble Lady, of course, Baroness Penn, and my Noble Friend for prior engagement on these " Baroness Jones of Whitchurch (Labour) - View Video - View Transcript |
16 Jul 2025, 9:16 p.m. - House of Lords "Turning to amendment 101, table by Baroness Penn, and supported by Lord Palmer, this would commit the " Baroness Jones of Whitchurch, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (Department for Business and Trade) (Labour) - View Video - View Transcript |
4 Sep 2025, 6:24 p.m. - House of Lords "Baroness Penn it mentioned the work " Baroness Taylor of Stevenage, Parliamentary Under-Secretary (Housing, Communities and Local Government) (Labour) - View Video - View Transcript |
4 Sep 2025, 5:49 p.m. - House of Lords "this group. I would like to thank the noble ladies Baroness Penn it and Baroness Willis for their support to these amendments. I look " Baroness McIntosh of Pickering (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
10 Sep 2025, 4:52 p.m. - House of Lords "Baroness Penn Spelman -- Baroness Spelman said, we spent a lot of time " Baroness Barran (Conservative) - View Video - View Transcript |
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Employment Rights Bill
167 speeches (34,864 words) Report stage Wednesday 16th July 2025 - Lords Chamber Home Office Mentions: 1: Lord Palmer of Childs Hill (LD - Life peer) I was delighted to be able to sign the amendment of the noble Baroness Penn, which we on these Benches - Link to Speech |
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Wednesday 17th September 2025
Agendas and papers - Special Inquiry Committee proposals 2026 Liaison Committee (Lords) Found: by Baroness Altmann, Lord Hunt of Wirral, Baroness Kramer, Baroness O’Grady of Upper Holloway, Baroness Penn |
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Employment Rights Bill 2024-25: Lords stages and amendments - CBP-10334
Sep. 12 2025 Found: These include: Amendments 127, 80, 138 and 139 Baroness Penn (Con) tabled amendment 127, which would |
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Sep. 12 2025
Employment Rights Bill 2024-25: Lords stages and amendments Employment Rights Bill 2024-26 Briefing papers Found: These include: Amendments 127, 80, 138 and 139 Baroness Penn (Con) tabled amendment 127, which would |
Jul. 15 2025
HL Bill 113-II Second marshalled list for Report Employment Rights Bill 2024-26 Amendment Paper Found: BARONESS PENN LORD PALMER OF CHILDS HILL LORD HAMPTON BARONESS LISTER OF BURTERSETT 100_ After Clause |
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Tuesday 22nd July 2025
Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government Source Page: MHCLG annual report and accounts 2024 to 2025 Document: (PDF) Found: • Baroness Penn, Minister on Leave (Parliamentary Under Secretary of State) from 01 March 2024 to |
Tuesday 22nd July 2025
Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government Source Page: MHCLG annual report and accounts 2024 to 2025 Document: (PDF) Found: • Baroness Penn, Minister on Leave (Parliamentary Under Secretary of State) from 01 March 2024 to 05 |
Tuesday 22nd July 2025
Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government Source Page: MHCLG annual report and accounts 2024 to 2025 Document: (PDF) Found: • Baroness Penn, Minister on Leave (Parliamentary Under Secretary of State) from 01 March 2024 to 05 |
Monday 21st July 2025
HM Treasury Source Page: HM Treasury annual report and accounts 2024 to 2025 Document: (PDF) Found: from 15/11/2023 to 05/07/2024 18,805 (70,969) – 4,000 23,000 25,179 (70,969) – 8,000 33,000 Baroness Penn |