Debates between Baroness Ludford and Earl of Clancarty during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Wed 7th Mar 2018
European Union (Withdrawal) Bill
Lords Chamber

Committee: 5th sitting (Hansard): House of Lords

Brexit: Economic Forecast

Debate between Baroness Ludford and Earl of Clancarty
Wednesday 28th November 2018

(5 years, 11 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Baroness Ludford Portrait Baroness Ludford
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My Lords—

Earl of Clancarty Portrait The Earl of Clancarty (CB)
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My Lords, the original Question was on sectors of the economy. What do the Government think will be the particular effect of the loss of freedom of movement on our service industries with regard to business in Europe?

Lord Callanan Portrait Lord Callanan
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The noble Earl is correct that freedom of movement is ending. We are in favour of agreeing a mobility partnership with the EU which will allow the movement of business professionals, tourists, and so on, from which both our economies develop. But there will no longer be freedom of movement as in the original treaties.

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill

Debate between Baroness Ludford and Earl of Clancarty
Earl of Clancarty Portrait The Earl of Clancarty
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I am not sure that is the case at all. It is very likely that visas will be introduced.

Baroness Ludford Portrait Baroness Ludford (LD)
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It may well be that we benefit from a visa waiver but it is also likely that we will have to apply for what is often called a “visa lite”, which similar to the United States’ ESTA. The EU is bringing in something called ETIAS and for most people it will not amount to a big difference: you have to go online, pay a fee and answer lots of questions about health, criminal background and so on. We may not require a visa but we will need a “visa lite”, so it will not be hassle-free.

Earl of Clancarty Portrait The Earl of Clancarty
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Absolutely. Whatever happens, we will be at a disadvantage to everyone else in Europe and that is really significant.