Debates between Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb and Baroness Sherlock during the 2024 Parliament

Mon 9th Sep 2024

Pension Credit

Debate between Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb and Baroness Sherlock
Monday 9th September 2024

(2 months, 2 weeks ago)

Lords Chamber
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Baroness Sherlock Portrait Baroness Sherlock (Lab)
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I am grateful to the noble Lord. He will remember that the previous Government decided to do something similar with child benefit. They wanted to means-test it, but because they could not find a way to do so, they decided to get just higher-rate taxpayers. He may also remember the massive complications that flowed from that—because the tax system is individual-based and the benefit system household-based—and that it caused huge complications and the Government effectively had to relitigate to do it all over again. We need to find something that works and is straightforward. The pension credit system is established; people know it is there. Our job is to make sure they can apply for it. If we can do that, we can ensure that they get not just this £200 or £300 but the thousands of pounds they might be entitled to under pension credit. We have absolutely committed to looking after pensioners. The triple lock gave people £970 the year before and £900 this year; who knows what the earnings data will be, but it could be several hundred pounds more this year as well. We will keep investing in pensioners, but we will direct more to those who need it most.

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb Portrait Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb (GP)
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Why do these tough decisions always hit the poor and not the fossil fuel companies and the water companies?