1 Baroness Hunter of Auchenreoch debates involving the Department of Health and Social Care

Terminally Ill Adults (End of Life) Bill

Baroness Hunter of Auchenreoch Excerpts
Friday 24th April 2026

(1 day, 9 hours ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Sandhurst Portrait Lord Sandhurst (Con)
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I am sorry; I want to finish this and I shall be short.

It is, as I have said, a deeply flawed Bill on this grave issue of the administration of death—something completely new to our society. Such a policy must be carried out properly, with safeguards from the outset. We must have proper safeguards. Because it has had a flawed genesis, it is a Bill that needs great changes. We have had the reports of the Delegated Powers and Constitution Committees, which highlighted flaws and identified that we simply do not know the detail. We are talking about people dying: to leave the detail of the process to statutory instruments, without even providing draft statutory instruments, is simply not acceptable in this area. It may be all right for other things—regulation of food or something—but it is not appropriate here.

This has been a big factor in causing so many amendments to be laid. The Bill has been justifiably criticised by a large number of responsible, independent, professional and expert bodies, the great royal medical colleges among them. That is why I put forward a large number of detailed amendments. As I have explained, these were drafted by two independent bodies of distinction. One was the Law Society of England and Wales. Coming at this as lawyers, it does not have a view on the merits but it wanted to make the Bill safe. It sent me a great bundle that I then put down, having looked at them.

The other group that provided me with amendments that I have identified was the Complex Life and Death Decisions group at King’s College London. As I have explained, that is a group of multidisciplinary experts in the fields of mental health, capacity and decision-making. They know all about the Official Solicitor, the Court of Protection and everything else. Both these bodies are concerned with making the Bill safe. They are not saying no to assisted dying; they are saying that it must be managed properly. What I put forward was, I hoped, a means of avoiding risks identified by experts in the field to make the Bill effective and safe—not to obstruct but to improve.

Too little heed has been paid to those concerns to ensure that the Bill is safe. The speeches to date and many amendments identified and promoted remedies. By last Christmas, it was clear to anyone with eyes to see that the Bill needed major correction. I thought, naively perhaps, that after our Christmas break the noble and learned Lord might return with outline proposals for constructive amendments and perhaps invite discussions outside the Chamber, having heeded what the royal colleges, the lawyers—the Law Society—and others were going to say. I remind people that I am actually a barrister, not even a solicitor, so I do not have a vested interest in that.

This was a golden opportunity for review. By then, our Committee’s detailed processes had identified the many gaps that any serious person would wish to see filled before proceeding with assisted dying. As I have made clear, I am not a dyed in the wool supporter of assisted dying—I say yes to autonomy, but not regardless. My long experience in the law and medical matters has led me to know that there are many risks in this area. The Committee identified the many gaps that have to be filled. The dangers cannot just be brushed aside.

We who are concerned with the Bill do not feel we have had the open engagement that it merited. Too many serious questions remain unaddressed. There must be a complete rethink—because a Bill is bound to come back—in which those who promote the Bill look seriously at the objections that have come from this side, or from people like me, to make certain that we really have a proper Bill that starts cautiously, because this will be a major change in our lives. That is all I will say about this Bill. I have spoken for only seven minutes.

Before I end, however, may I say one more thing? I anticipate that this is my last speech in this Chamber before compulsory departure, so I just want to digress from the tumbril on one matter. What I have learned in this House is the great depth of learning and wisdom that is deployed all the time, sometimes from quite surprising sources. Speaking frankly, I had concluded well before 1999 that the time for hereditary Peers was well past. However, I believed, again naively, that our continued process would spur proper reform. That opportunity has now been lost. To me, that is a pity, because it must be apparent to any thinking person that we cannot continue on the basis of appointments for life at the whim—I emphasise “whim”, because it sometimes is—of the Prime Minister of the day. How change is to be achieved is a matter for those who remain in this House, but I suggest it might be a mixture of elected Members and others appointed from bodies such as the royal colleges and great professions for fixed terms, whether five years, 10 years or whatever, to ensure the expertise and breadth that we have in this House. Something must be done: it cannot stay in the “too difficult” box any more.

Baroness Hunter of Auchenreoch Portrait Baroness Hunter of Auchenreoch (Lab)
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My Lords, I spoke at Second Reading to support my noble and learned friend Lord Falconer’s Bill, and I have been here throughout Committee. I am honoured to speak in the same debate as the most reverend Primate the Archbishop of Canterbury and also to follow the noble Lord, Lord Sandhurst, in one of his last speeches here. As a relative newcomer to your Lordships’ House—one of the newbies mentioned by the noble Lord, Lord Carlile—I am in awe, and will always remain so, of the great variety of expertise and experience of noble Lords. These last months have been proof of that writ large: powerful and persuasive arguments from some of the most eminent physicians, lawyers and other professionals in the country, as well as many noble Lords with a long history with the subject and a deep knowledge of this Bill.

I genuinely respect the views of opponents and have followed closely noble Lords’ many amendments and speeches. Indeed, there are among your Lordships long-standing and personal friends of mine, and noble Lords have made their arguments, some at great length. That is why I imposed a self-denying ordinance on speaking myself—until now. I speak up because the other aspect of this House that has so impressed me is the way in which we conduct ourselves: self-regulating, courteous, disciplined; scrutinising and improving legislation in order to fulfil our time-honoured duty of returning Bills to the other place, to our elected representatives. I am proud of our reputation and my role, but something irregular and troubling has gone on, and we all know this. There has been an atmosphere in the House on occasion, despite my noble and learned friend’s extraordinary good temper, which is not what I had hitherto known.

There have been more than 1,000 amendments, with just seven noble Lords tabling half of them. We have spent more than 100 hours—16 days—scrutinising and improving this Bill. That is on top of the 110 hours in the other place. Despite extra time for these Friday sittings and my noble and learned friend’s sincere attempts to reach agreement, here we are, on our last day, having debated less than half of the groups of amendments, never more than four a day—a snail’s pace. I welcome careful scrutiny, but I believe that what I have witnessed is procedural obstruction, as the noble Lord, Lord Baker, so eloquently pointed out too. I have been baffled, dismayed and, ultimately, embarrassed that these tactics mean the Bill will fall today, before this House can even vote on the principle of assisted dying, let alone pass it back for final consideration by this country’s elected representatives, who have already supported it.