Debates between Baroness Hoey and Wera Hobhouse during the 2017-2019 Parliament

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill

Debate between Baroness Hoey and Wera Hobhouse
Tuesday 12th June 2018

(6 years, 5 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Baroness Hoey Portrait Kate Hoey
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I agree with the hon. Lady. I also think that the people of this country will see through Lords amendment 19.

Wera Hobhouse Portrait Wera Hobhouse (Bath) (LD)
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Will the hon. Lady give way?

Baroness Hoey Portrait Kate Hoey
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No, I will not.

The people of this country will see that Lords amendment 19 is really about trying to go back on Brexit. Their lordships can say what they want, but that amendment is actually about reversing Brexit. We want to take back control, but taking back control was about the people of this country taking back control and our complying with our constitutional duties as a parliamentary democracy.

The European Commission has tried to be as negative and difficult as possible, and I find it absolutely amazing that anyone would think that if, at the end of the day, we did not negotiate a good deal and we said no, we would send that back for renegotiation. Do hon. Members really think that the European Commission would give us a better deal if it knew that the more obstructive it was, the more likely it would be that any deal would be sent back for renegotiation? The reality is that the European Commission does not want us to leave. It does not want to give us a good deal; it wants to punish us.

Wera Hobhouse Portrait Wera Hobhouse
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Will the hon. Lady give way?

Baroness Hoey Portrait Kate Hoey
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No, I will not.

If Lords amendment 19 is agreed to, it will be a recipe for the EU to try to get no deal so that we will have to go back from this Parliament, cap in hand, and ask for changes. What it really wants is for those changes to be staying in the single market, staying in the customs union, still having the European Court of Justice looking over us, still paying our money—more and more money—and reversing the decision. Whatever is said today, this is really about whether we believe in giving people the right to have their say. We said in the letter that went to everyone, which cost a huge amount of money:

“This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide.”