Inheritance Tax: Impact on Rural Businesses

Debate between Baroness Butler-Sloss and Lord Livermore
Thursday 1st May 2025

(1 week, 4 days ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Livermore Portrait Lord Livermore (Lab)
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I am grateful to the right reverend Prelate for his question and I pay tribute to the work that he is doing with the communities that he is discussing. The Government believe that introducing a clawback mechanism such as he describes could still result in some of the wealthiest estates paying less inheritance tax than under the proposed reforms. That would raise considerably less money, and therefore would not go towards repairing the public finances and supporting the public services in the way that we seek.

Baroness Butler-Sloss Portrait Baroness Butler-Sloss (CB)
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My Lords, I own a farmhouse in Devon, which, like Northern Ireland, has very small farms. My house is worth over £1 million as a farmhouse, and all the farmhouses around me, with small farms of 100 or 150 acres, are worth at least £1 million. Does the Minister appreciate that? You are at the £1 million situation even before you look at the cost of the land.

Lord Livermore Portrait Lord Livermore (Lab)
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I am grateful to the noble and learned Baroness for her question. As I say, individuals will benefit from 100% relief for the first £1 million of combined business and agricultural assets, but that £1 million sits on top of the existing reliefs and all other spousal exemptions and nil-rate bands. Full exemptions for transfers between spouses and civil partners will continue to apply; therefore a couple with agricultural or business assets can typically pass on up to £3 million-worth of assets without paying any inheritance tax at all. That is considerably more generous than in any other part of the tax system.

Independent School Fees: VAT

Debate between Baroness Butler-Sloss and Lord Livermore
Monday 21st October 2024

(6 months, 3 weeks ago)

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Lord Livermore Portrait Lord Livermore (Lab)
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The Government are extremely confident in our costings. We expect this policy to raise significant amounts of revenue. The Office for Budget Responsibility will certify the Government’s costings at the Budget. Of course, one keeps all tax policy under review.

Baroness Butler-Sloss Portrait Baroness Butler-Sloss (CB)
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Do the Minister and the Government realise that we are talking about not only Eton, Winchester and Westminster? There are a large number of small independent schools serving local people on relatively low fees. They are the ones that will fail, in Northern Ireland and other places. There is no point reviewing it in a year’s time—they will be closed and those children may or may not find sufficient places in the local state schools.

Lord Livermore Portrait Lord Livermore (Lab)
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I disagree with the assumptions that underlie the noble and learned Baroness’s assumptions. As I said, some schools have already announced a very wide range of fee increases, from zero to 5% and up to 10%.