Early Years Provision: Bell Review

Debate between Baroness Butler-Sloss and Baroness Smith of Malvern
Monday 21st October 2024

(2 weeks, 6 days ago)

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Baroness Smith of Malvern Portrait Baroness Smith of Malvern (Lab)
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The noble Lord is right about the challenge for the workforce. That is why, last week, as he says, we published further information about the 75,000 additional staff that will be necessary. It will be a challenge, but we have already begun work, focusing on the Government’s childcare recruitment campaign, “Do Something Big”. We have also introduced a T-level in early years and childcare, and through Skills England we will be identifying the gaps and ensuring that the support is there for employers to develop staff in this area. But it will be a very big challenge to make sure that the places and people are there to deliver the entitlement by next September.

Baroness Butler-Sloss Portrait Baroness Butler-Sloss (CB)
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My Lords, many young mothers are not very good at looking after their very young children. What are the Government doing to help mothers and children bond and learn to look after each other?

Baroness Smith of Malvern Portrait Baroness Smith of Malvern (Lab)
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In my case, I could say that slightly older mothers were probably not particularly good at looking after their young children either.

The noble and learned Baroness makes a very important point about the support we provide for mothers, obviously through midwives and antenatal care, which I know my colleague in the Department of Health and Social Care will be very concerned about, and we will hear her views. In ensuring we have early family support, particularly for the most vulnerable families, we will also help to overcome that problem.

Government’s Childcare Expansion

Debate between Baroness Butler-Sloss and Baroness Smith of Malvern
Monday 21st October 2024

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Baroness Smith of Malvern Portrait Baroness Smith of Malvern (Lab)
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My noble friend makes a very important point. As I suggested earlier, childcare provision is good for parents because it provides them with opportunities to work and supports them with the cost of living. Most importantly—my right honourable friend the Secretary of State is adamant about this—high-quality early years education provision ensures that children get the very best possible start. It helps to overcome disadvantage in their home lives; it helps to identify special educational needs earlier, and it sets children up to learn. That is why it will be an absolute commitment of this Government. We were pleased to be able to outline last week the next stage of our development in this area.

Baroness Butler-Sloss Portrait Baroness Butler-Sloss (CB)
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My Lords, could the Minister of State say something about the importance of the status of people who work in early years?

Baroness Smith of Malvern Portrait Baroness Smith of Malvern (Lab)
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Absolutely. The name of our recruitment campaign to encourage more people to come and work in this area is “Do Something Big”. Our argument is that there is little that you can do that is more important for changing somebody’s life than working with them in their very earliest years, whether through caring or through early years education and development. That is why the investment that this Government are putting in is so important and why we will celebrate the people who carry out that really important role.

Independent Schools: VAT Exemption

Debate between Baroness Butler-Sloss and Baroness Smith of Malvern
Thursday 5th September 2024

(2 months ago)

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Baroness Smith of Malvern Portrait Baroness Smith of Malvern (Lab)
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My noble friend is right, and I am very proud of that. Our position, as I said, has been tested in the legal advice in the consideration of these changes. Our view is that being charged at the standard rate of VAT paid by millions of businesses across the UK is not discriminatory and is clearly proportionate to the objective of better funding for state schools. To the extent that I am able, I will certainly ensure that I write further about that issue to my noble friend and to others.

Baroness Butler-Sloss Portrait Baroness Butler-Sloss (CB)
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May I ask the Minster, before she sits down, about the children taking GCSEs and A-levels? What are the Government going to do to help them where there will be changes in the programmes they are doing?

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Baroness Smith of Malvern Portrait Baroness Smith of Malvern (Lab)
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I apologise to the noble and learned Baroness: with respect, I was showing my inexperience in this House and asking my Whip about the situation. If the House will allow, could the noble and learned Baroness repeat her question?

Baroness Butler-Sloss Portrait Baroness Butler-Sloss (CB)
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I was asking about children taking GCSEs and A-levels when this starts in January.

Baroness Smith of Malvern Portrait Baroness Smith of Malvern (Lab)
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I think I covered that point in talking about the arguments for introducing this in January, while also making it clear that it is the Government’s view that introducing the VAT liability does not necessarily imply that a sudden increase in bills will arise; nor does it imply that the whole of that increase in VAT will be passed on in fees. In fact, if we look at the behaviour in the private school sector, we see that, despite very large increases in fees—well above inflation—parents have tended, where they have made that choice, to keep their children in the private sector anyway, and I am sure that the vast majority of parents will continue to do that. The analysis, including that carried out by the Institute for Fiscal Studies, suggests that, even if there is going to be a movement of pupils away from the private sector, that will tend to be not immediately in January but over a much longer period, and I imagine that will be the approach that most parents take.