Debates between Andrew Griffith and Judith Cummins during the 2024 Parliament

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Debate between Andrew Griffith and Judith Cummins
Monday 2nd September 2024

(2 months, 3 weeks ago)

Commons Chamber
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Andrew Griffith Portrait Andrew Griffith
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My right hon. Friend has made an important point, and he is right: this is a director general-level appointment in the civil service, second only to that of the permanent secretary and one of, I believe, only three director general-level appointments in the entirety of the Secretary of State’s Department. This is someone with the power to hire and fire and advance and promote civil servants, and someone—[Interruption.] This is an important point. Once this Rubicon has been crossed, once the civil service has political—[Interruption.]

Judith Cummins Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Judith Cummins)
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Order. Will Members make their remarks to the Chamber rather than exchanging them across the Benches?

Andrew Griffith Portrait Andrew Griffith
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Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I will make some progress. I understand that colleagues will want to move on to other points, but this is a very important point. Once this Rubicon has been crossed, it will not be possible to un-bake that cake of an independent civil service. Imagine the ambitious civil servants—the directors, the directors general—who never even had the chance to be considered for this role!