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Lords ChamberMy Lords, I have it in command from His Majesty the King to acquaint the House that His Majesty, having been informed of the purport of the Armed Forces Bill, has consented to place his interests, so far as they are affected by the Bill, at the disposal of Parliament for the purposes of the Bill.
Baroness in Waiting/Government Whip (Baroness Antrobus) (Lab)
My Lords, I will make a short statement on the position regarding legislative consent on the Bill. I am pleased to inform the House that legislative consent has been secured from both the Scottish Parliament and the Senedd, and I thank Ministers and officials in both Governments for their constructive engagement throughout the Bill’s passage.
Despite engagement with Northern Ireland Ministers and officials, it has not been possible to secure an agreed position from the Northern Ireland Executive. I therefore regret to inform the House that legislative consent has not been secured from the Northern Ireland Assembly.
However, having carefully considered the position, the Government have concluded that there are compelling reasons to proceed with the Bill without consent. First, the proposed extension of the covenant duty in Clause 2 seeks to ensure that the public bodies within its scope give due regard to the needs of serving personnel, veterans and their families, including the bereaved, when exercising relevant functions. Excluding Northern Ireland would leave a gap in the coverage of the extended duty, resulting in different statutory requirements depending on where members of the Armed Forces community live.
Secondly, excluding Northern Ireland from the relevant service justice provisions would create a gap in the protection available for victims. For these reasons, while we regret that consent has not been secured, we consider it necessary to proceed, so that the benefits and protections of these provisions extend across the whole of the United Kingdom. I beg to move that this Bill now be read a third time.
Baroness Antrobus
Baroness Antrobus (Lab)
My Lords, this amendment fulfils the undertaking I gave on Report to bring forward a government amendment on settlement fees for non-UK Armed Forces personnel and their families, in support of our manifesto commitment.
I am particularly grateful to the noble and gallant Lord, Lord Craig of Radley, for his persistence in pursuing this issue and for his constructive engagement. He has championed the interests of those who serve and their families with great commitment, and I am pleased that we have been able to respond to the concerns he raised in previous debates.
This amendment places a duty on the Secretary of State to amend the Immigration and Nationality (Fees) Regulations, so that eligible applicants under the relevant Armed Forces settlement routes are exempt from the applicable settlement fees. It also requires the Secretary of State to lay a report before Parliament within six months of Royal Assent, setting out the estimated cost to public funds of implementing the fee waiver and a timetable for implementation. This will give Parliament a clear account of how and when the waiver will be delivered. It puts a duty to deliver the fee waiver into law and provides for parliamentary scrutiny of its implementation.
Turning to Amendment 2, I recognise that the noble and gallant Lord, Lord Craig of Radley, is seeking a timetable for the delivery of the fee exemption and for this to be implemented within the first half of the next financial year. I confirm that the Government will implement the exemption before the end of September 2027. This will apply to service personnel with four years’ reckonable service. I hope that this assurance provides the certainty that the noble and gallant Lord seeks, so he will feel that he can withdraw his amendment. I beg to move.
Amendment 2 (to Amendment 1)
My Lords, I was expecting to speak to, and encourage others to support, Amendment 2 and to thank the Government for bringing forward my Amendment 54 from Report. However, the House has just heard from the Minister—and I thank her for the courtesy of informing me of her intention—that the Government will implement the elimination of fees by the end of September 2027. Indeed, that is in some ways even better than what my amendment called for, and it is of course excellent news. It comes from the Dispatch Box and so is binding in honour. It more than meets my amendment and I will be happy to withdraw it.
I do not wish to detain the House long, other than to explain why I had initially not asked to fix a date. This being a manifesto commitment, I had assumed that, two and a half years after the election, and the other place having been assured by MoD and Home Office Ministers over 18 months ago that they were working actively together on the issue, there would by now be an oven-ready announcement for Ministers to use. It has nevertheless taken recent discussions with Ministers and debates on the Floor of this House to get to the point of fixing a not-later-than implementation date.
I very much thank Ministers in government for their understanding on this point. I beg to move.
My Lords, I am speaking on behalf of my noble friend Lady Smith of Newnham, who seems to have gone down with the lurgy that affected the Front Bench on this Bill last week. She sends her apologies that she cannot be in her place.
On Report, my noble friend Lady Smith indicated that she supported the noble and gallant Lord, Lord Craig of Radley, in his intentions with his amendment. She is also delighted with the concession that the Government have given today. We are really pleased that it has happened—it is a simple but important amendment that brings commencement at the earliest opportunity, within the first half of the next financial year.
My Lords, I apologise to the House for not being present last week for Report. I thank everyone who so thoughtfully sent good wishes. I also hope that the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, is making a return to full health. We certainly look forward to seeing him in his place. I am so sorry to learn that the noble Baroness, Lady Smith of Newnham, is unwell. I send her the best wishes of these Benches and hope that she is soon on the mend.
Happily, my noble friend Lord Minto is indestructible and fit as a butcher’s dog: here last week, here today. I thank him for his doughty efforts in my absence. I was watching avidly on my iPad from the dining room table and I think we all agree that his adversary, the noble Baroness, Lady Antrobus, plunged in at the deep end and acquitted herself admirably.
As my noble friend said last week, these Benches support the amendment tabled by the noble and gallant Lord, Lord Craig of Radley. Had he divided the House, we would have supported him. I welcome that the Government have addressed this issue with their amendment, and I am delighted to hear that the noble and gallant Lord is now content with the position.
I know it is no longer accepted practice to thank a cast of thousands at Third Reading, but, if noble Lords might indulge me for a moment, I would like to pay tribute to the noble and gallant Lord, Lord Craig of Radley. Not only did he serve our nation with distinction for 40 years; he has continued that distinguished service through his highly effective work in your Lordships’ House for a further three decades. At the age of 97— I do not know what he is on, but I want some of it—the noble and gallant Lord is still serving the nation. If ever there were a reason to abandon the plan to remove the over-80s from your Lordships’ House, I think the noble and gallant Lord, Lord Craig, encapsulates it.
I thank the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, and the noble Baroness, Lady Antrobus, for their constructive engagement as Ministers during the Bill’s progress, as well as the Bill team and everyone else who has assisted in its smooth passage.
I want to contribute quickly to Third Reading. I declare my interest as the assistant chief of defence staff of the reserve forces and cadets. I am therefore in a slightly odd role, in that I am responsible for the policy team of one specific element of the Bill.
It is traditional that at Third Reading we thank many of the civil servants who have been involved in the preparation of the Bill. Because I am so personally involved, I want to take that opportunity. My staff were very involved in addressing the amendments to Clause 22 that your Lordships’ House brought, and they worked incredibly hard over many days to try to address those issues. They were probably slightly surprised when your Lordships’ House decided to reject them, but I take this opportunity—because I have no view, and I look forward to working closely with the RFCAs in the future—to acknowledge the many hours of work that they put in in trying to come to a compromise. The members of staff are: Ceri Baker, Nicholas Allan, Brigadier Christopher Palmer, Richard Hartell, Lieutenant-Colonel Martin Stanning and Safa Shahid. I am sure that your Lordships’ House would wish to thank them for their sterling efforts over the course of the Bill.
My Lords, I am delighted that the Bill has reached this stage and I pay tribute to the noble Baroness, Lady Antrobus, for stepping in magnificently at the last minute. Personally, I am disappointed that the Royal Fleet Auxiliary is not within the Armed Forces covenant, but I thank the Minister, the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, and officials for engaging. I thank the noble Lord for his letter to me of 1 October and request that a copy of it be put in the Library, because it commits to a review of the Royal Fleet Auxiliary’s status within the Civil Service and Sponsored Reserves arrangements, which will be implemented in 2027.
Baroness Antrobus (Lab)
I thank noble Lords for their extremely kind comments. To address the point made by the noble Baroness, Lady Fraser, I will ensure that the letter regarding the Royal Fleet Auxiliary is put in the Library. I will pass on the kind words for my noble friend the Minister, but he should be back very soon so noble Lords across the House will be able to engage with him. As I have said before, I am very happy to see the noble Baroness, Lady Goldie, back. Obviously, I am concerned that the noble Baroness, Lady Smith of Newnham, is not here, and I fear that I will be next.
Let us press on with passing the Bill. I am very grateful for the co-operation of the noble and gallant Lord, Lord Craig of Radley. It was rather last minute, but he has been exceptionally collaborative and helpful, up to and including this morning, and the Government have committed to implementation by the end of September 2027.
My Lords, I conclude by expressing my warmest thanks to all those Members of the House who either supported or voted for my earlier amendments. I also thank the Ministers closely involved in dealing with this issue for their willingness to meet and discuss how to progress it. It made all the difference to harmoniously reaching this satisfactory conclusion. I also thank the noble Baroness, Lady Goldie, for being more than kind in her remarks about me. We should not forget that the beneficiaries of this government approach will be those who, up to now, have faced fees amounting to five-figure sums for a family of four, on top of air fares and relocation costs. Waiving these fees by a set date in the future gives certainty and is a fair military covenant way to treat veterans who, along with their families, have given service often of many years to this country. I beg leave to withdraw my amendment.
My Lords, I apologise for not combining everything earlier—I was trying to follow the rules on speaking. I thank both Ministers, the noble Baroness, Lady Antrobus, and the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, and their officials for the meetings between Committee and Report and earlier during the passage of the Bill on some complicated issues. I agree with the noble Baroness, Lady Goldie: I do not think that we were divided by politics on this Bill, and it has been really important that we were able to progress things. If my noble friend Lady Smith were here, she would say that she was particularly pleased that she was successful in your Lordships’ House on the single occupancy housing arrangements, which have strengthened the Armed Forces covenant. She hopes that that might be continued, with the support of the Government, at the other end. With that, I conclude the comments from these Benches.