Debates between Viscount Younger of Leckie and Lord Thomas of Gresford during the 2015-2017 Parliament

Tue 13th Oct 2015

Wales Act 2014

Debate between Viscount Younger of Leckie and Lord Thomas of Gresford
Tuesday 13th October 2015

(9 years, 1 month ago)

Lords Chamber
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Viscount Younger of Leckie Portrait Viscount Younger of Leckie
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Yes, indeed, I make it clear to the House that the Wales Bill will appear here before too long, although there are no dates. The objective is that there is going to be a clearer settlement in terms of setting out reserved powers—a reserved powers model. It will be a strengthened settlement and will deliver a fairer settlement through the introduction of the funding floor alongside the spending review, with the expectation that the Welsh Government will work with us to progress.

Lord Thomas of Gresford Portrait Lord Thomas of Gresford (LD)
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The Minister will be aware that the requirement in Section 12 of the Wales Act for a referendum before the transfer of income tax-raising powers to the Welsh Assembly has been used as an excuse for delay. Will his Government use the forthcoming Wales Bill to remove this block and make the Welsh Government accountable for their gross failure in maintaining standards of education and health in Wales?

Viscount Younger of Leckie Portrait Viscount Younger of Leckie
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I cannot agree with the noble Lord in terms of delay because we think that it is right to get the agreement right. The Wales Act and the St David’s Day agreement empower the Welsh Government with the tools and levers that they need to grow the Welsh economy. We believe that the referendum is right as part and parcel of giving the Welsh people more say in terms of their powers.