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Continuous At-Sea Deterrent

Debate between Stewart Malcolm McDonald and Simon Clarke
Wednesday 10th April 2019

(5 years, 7 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Stewart Malcolm McDonald Portrait Stewart Malcolm McDonald
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I am afraid that the hon. Gentleman is wrong when he says that the Government are not reckless. They have not decommissioned a nuclear submarine since 1980. The National Audit Office said last week that the UK is at risk of becoming an irresponsible nuclear power, so he is just wrong when he says that.

Simon Clarke Portrait Mr Clarke
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This debate is about the principle of deterrence. On the decommissioning of the boats—[Interruption.] On the decommissioning of the boats, the MOD will make provision to make sure that they are put away, but the point about this debate is—[Interruption.] That is under way. The point is that we have—[Interruption.] From a sedentary position, I am getting heckled—

Stewart Malcolm McDonald Portrait Stewart Malcolm McDonald
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Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Simon Clarke Portrait Mr Clarke
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By all means.

Stewart Malcolm McDonald Portrait Stewart Malcolm McDonald
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The hon. Gentleman should speak to his colleague, the hon. Member for Berwick-upon-Tweed (Anne-Marie Trevelyan)—perhaps she can educate him.

Simon Clarke Portrait Mr Clarke
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The principle of the debate is whether we should have the nuclear deterrent. The Scottish nationalists, for a mixture of bizarre self-loathing of this country and political opportunism—[Interruption.] No. I am proud to come from a country that will defend ourselves and our allies. If that is good enough for the United Kingdom, it is certainly good enough for Scotland. The only negative tone in this entire debate has been injected, by common accord, by SNP Members. They are the only ones who want to divide the House—