Water Cannon Debate

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Department: Home Office

Water Cannon

John Bercow Excerpts
Wednesday 15th July 2015

(8 years, 8 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Theresa May Portrait Mrs May
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I think that I should probably just say thank you and sit down.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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I call Mr Nick Herbert when he has finished consulting his mobile phone.

Lord Herbert of South Downs Portrait Nick Herbert (Arundel and South Downs) (Con)
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I know that the Home Secretary will have taken this decision with great care. I therefore regret to say that I, too, have grave concerns about it. Does it not directly contradict the statement of the Prime Minister during the London riots of 2011 that water cannon would not be taken off the table and that indeed they could be made available within 24 hours? The Home Secretary has not been directly responsible for policing in the capital for 15 years. The elected Mayor has responsibility in that regard and the senior operational commander in London has made it quite clear that he supports the use of water cannon. Surely a riot is a riot whether it is in Northern Ireland or on the streets of London and it is hard to see why it should be dealt with differently. Just this week, water cannon have been used in the Province.

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Theresa May Portrait Mrs May
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I am very conscious of the poll that the Mayor of London, my hon. Friend the Member for Uxbridge (Boris Johnson), undertook on the views of Londoners. I am also conscious that a number of views were expressed in 2011 by those who sadly found themselves living in parts of London that were affected. I reiterate my earlier point that people often assume that because what happened in 2011 were riots, water cannon would necessarily have been operable in every circumstance. In fact, they would not have been. There is evidence from the chief constables of West Midlands police and Merseyside police, where riots also took place in 2011, that water cannon would not have been the answer because of the nature of the riots taking place.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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In talking about Uxbridge, we must not forget South Ruislip.

Boris Johnson Portrait Boris Johnson
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I am most grateful, Mr Speaker.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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It is a very important part of the hon. Gentleman’s constituency.

Steve McCabe Portrait Steve McCabe (Birmingham, Selly Oak) (Lab)
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I welcome the Home Secretary’s decision. It feels as though the Government are preparing for a number of confrontations. Is she confident that the police have the necessary resources for what could prove to be a long, hot summer?

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None Portrait Several hon. Members
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John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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I do not wish to be unkind to the hon. Member for South Antrim (Danny Kinahan), who has struck me, in the short time I have known him, as a very decent fellow, but he has only just toddled into the Chamber and is now rising to ask the Home Secretary a question. He cannot expect to be called in relation to this statement, because he was not here for it. We will hear from the hon. Gentleman on another occasion—we are saving him up.