All 1 Debates between Simon Hart and David Miliband

House of Lords Reform Bill

Debate between Simon Hart and David Miliband
Tuesday 10th July 2012

(11 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Simon Hart Portrait Simon Hart
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No, I will not.

David Miliband Portrait David Miliband
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Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Simon Hart Portrait Simon Hart
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No, I will keep pressing on, if the right hon. Gentleman does not mind.

An obvious reason for regret, which I think we all recognise, is that this Bill is not for the benefit of the nation. It is for the benefit of coalition management, and some would say that it is perfectly justified for the purposes of our Liberal Democrat colleagues. However, it is difficult to march behind generals whom we know are not particularly committed to this either—we know that because the Prime Minister has indicated it to us and because we speak to our own Ministers. This measure is not in the DNA of the Conservative party and actually the party is united on this point. The vote may say something else, but the party, with one or two exceptions, is pretty united in its opposition. We have only to look at the Hansard record of the vote—