English Votes for English Laws Debate

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Department: Leader of the House
Wednesday 15th July 2015

(9 years, 5 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Lord Grayling Portrait Chris Grayling
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Last, but not least, I give way to the hon. Member for Central Ayrshire (Dr Whitford).

Philippa Whitford Portrait Dr Philippa Whitford (Central Ayrshire) (SNP)
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It is not that SNP Members do not recognise the issue for constituents living in England—we absolutely recognise it, which is why we welcomed our Parliament—but in view of all the issues that have been raised, does the right hon. Gentleman not accept that we might as well do the work and have a permanent solution rather than a hotch-potch, which is what this is? You need a Parliament for England.

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Pete Wishart Portrait Pete Wishart
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I will not give way to the right hon. and learned Gentleman again.

The situation cannot go on whereby English Members continually and consistently vote down the expressed desires of Scottish Members of Parliament, with no consequences or response. That is why we have taken an interest. I want to deal with foxhunting, because I imagine that a few other comments will be made about it.

Philippa Whitford Portrait Dr Philippa Whitford
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Our constituents have commented that during Scotland Bill debates, the Chamber has been almost empty apart from us, but we have been swamped by hundreds of Members voting against us in the evening.

Ian C. Lucas Portrait Ian C. Lucas
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I’m here all the time.

Philippa Whitford Portrait Dr Whitford
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There have been only half a dozen people on the Government Benches during debates that are crucial for Scotland.

Pete Wishart Portrait Pete Wishart
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I am grateful to my hon. Friend for pointing that out. I remember coming into the Chamber and seeing no Conservative Back Benchers present during Scotland Bill debates. There was one Parliamentary Private Secretary, but no Back Benchers. That shows the interest they took in our legislation. All of a sudden, when we take an interest in something that is considered to be English-only, there is fury. The proposal is withdrawn in a hurry, to be put back once the Government have changed the rules about how they deal with such matters.