Foreign National Offenders (Exclusion from the UK) Bill

Debate between Philip Hollobone and Bob Stewart
Friday 11th March 2016

(9 years, 9 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Philip Hollobone Portrait Mr Hollobone
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My hon. Friend makes a very helpful intervention. He speaks from personal experience and with great knowledge of these matters.

Bob Stewart Portrait Bob Stewart (Beckenham) (Con)
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Personal experience of being a shoplifter?

Philip Hollobone Portrait Mr Hollobone
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He has personal experience of being shoplifted, not being a shoplifter. The point that he makes is absolutely right, and it is an issue that the Committee could explore. Opinions will differ in Committee, but I share his view that shoplifting should be taken seriously. Unless criminal behaviour is nipped in the bud, it tends to get worse. If a foreign national thinks it is acceptable to shoplift in this country, I think most of my constituents would say, “That is not acceptable. Go and do it in your own country.”

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Philip Hollobone Portrait Mr Hollobone
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And those people will be very embarrassed indeed that their fellow foreign nationals are clogging up our prisons in this way. They may be keener than us to see a sensible resolution to the problem.

The point that I want to make in drawing my brief remarks to a close is that, if we are giving so much money in international aid to Nigeria, Pakistan and Somalia, but those three countries are in the top 10 list of shame in respect of having foreign nationals in our prisons, surely we should do in those countries what we are doing in Jamaica—spending the international aid money that we are already giving them on building prisons in those countries, so that the prisoners in our country can be sent back to them.

Bob Stewart Portrait Bob Stewart
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If we do not build prisons, perhaps we should make it a condition of our giving aid to those countries that they take back their prisoners who have offended under our laws.

Philip Hollobone Portrait Mr Hollobone
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My hon. Friend’s bid to be on the Bill Committee is accepted. That is exactly the sort of constructive suggestion we need to strengthen the legislation.