House of Lords Reform Bill Debate

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Department: Cabinet Office

House of Lords Reform Bill

Pete Wishart Excerpts
Monday 9th July 2012

(12 years ago)

Commons Chamber
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Nick Clegg Portrait The Deputy Prime Minister
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The point that I was making, then I shall give way, is that the status quo is unsustainable. The House of Lords is already too big, and it will continue to grow bigger still under whichever Government, unless we do something about it.

Pete Wishart Portrait Pete Wishart (Perth and North Perthshire) (SNP)
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If, for whatever reason, the Deputy Prime Minister is unsuccessful in getting the White Paper through this afternoon—[Hon. Members: “It is a Bill.”]—will he pledge today that he and other senior Liberal Democrats will not take their places in an unreformed House of Lords?

Nick Clegg Portrait The Deputy Prime Minister
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I am making the case for the Government’s Bill. I am not going to make predictions about a vote tomorrow, which I firmly believe will be carried.

The Bill reverses that trend. It gradually reduces the membership and caps it at 450, plus 12 bishops. Some people have said that the numbers could be dealt with much more easily, that we can slim the other place by disqualifying convicted criminals or allowing Members to resign.