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Thu 14th Jun 2018
Ivory Bill (Fourth sitting)
Public Bill Committees

Committee Debate: 4th sitting: House of Commons

Ivory Bill (Fourth sitting)

Debate between Pauline Latham and David Rutley
Committee Debate: 4th sitting: House of Commons
Thursday 14th June 2018

(6 years, 5 months ago)

Public Bill Committees
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Pauline Latham Portrait Mrs Pauline Latham (Mid Derbyshire) (Con)
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Plectrums are surely independent from the musical instrument; they are something that somebody chooses to use. If they are 100% either mammoth or elephant ivory, they will not be able to be sold. It is highly unlikely that any musician will rely on selling those in order to fund his or her retirement, because they are such small parts. I would have thought that that is a bit of an irrelevance. I do not know if the Minister agrees.

David Rutley Portrait David Rutley
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In the scheme of what we are debating, it certainly is a small item. However, for those involved, it may be significant. My hon. Friend is absolutely right: if it is made of elephant ivory, it does not comply. However—we will debate mammoths at length when we debate clause 35, I am sure—mammoth ivory is not in the scope of the Bill as it stands, and therefore a plectrum will not be affected if it is made of mammoth ivory.