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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Tue 21 May 2019
Wild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)

"Q Clearly, you are very fond of your animals and have had them for a very long time. Mr Jolly, you said that you would not continue, but you are Peter Jolly senior, so obviously your children and grandchildren are involved.

Peter Jolly: There is a junior...."

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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Tue 21 May 2019
Wild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)

"Would they continue with the circus or would they close it down?

Peter Jolly: They might continue with the domestic animals, but they would not part with the exotics. They would move on to other work with the exotics...."

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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Tue 21 May 2019
Wild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)

"Q You said you would take them to county shows if the ban came into being. What sort of things would you be doing at county shows?

Peter Jolly: A circus...."

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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Tue 21 May 2019
Wild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)

"Q So if we decide to go down the route of banning wild animals in circuses, we also need to look at the definition of a circus. You said you have llamas and goats. What other animals do you have? Do you have dogs?

Peter Jolly: Yes—dogs, fan-tailed pigeons...."

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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Tue 21 May 2019
Wild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)

"Q Do you have doves?

Peter Jolly: People call them doves, but they are actually fan-tailed pigeons. People always call them doves for some unknown reason. We have dogs, goats, llamas, ponies, donkeys...."

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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Tue 21 May 2019
Wild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)

"Q What about you, Ms MacManus?

Carol MacManus: We have eight horses, five ponies, a mule, a donkey, five llamas, two camels, one zebra, 38 pigeons, six doves, two reindeer, 10 dogs, six ducks, four chickens, two cats...."

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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Tue 21 May 2019
Wild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)

"Q If the ban came into place and you could not use the wild animals, you would continue with the other animals.

Carol MacManus: Yes...."

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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Tue 21 May 2019
Wild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)

"Q You both said that you either would not get rid of them or would not know what to do with them, and that they could not stay at home. If you were doing county shows, though, that would not be every week.

Peter Jolly: No...."

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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Tue 21 May 2019
Wild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)

"It would be occasional use, presumably.

Carol MacManus: If we got work every week, would there be a difference? If we were working through winter-time with our reindeer jobs, we could be out every single day...."

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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Tue 21 May 2019
Wild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)

"Yes, because of Santa Claus.

Carol MacManus: And we could be taking them up and down the country, all over the place—much further than we ever travel...."

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