All 2 Debates between Nick Thomas-Symonds and Christian Matheson

Mon 11th Sep 2017
European Union (Withdrawal) Bill
Commons Chamber

2nd reading: House of Commons

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Nick Thomas-Symonds and Christian Matheson
Monday 8th July 2019

(4 years, 9 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Christian Matheson Portrait Christian Matheson (City of Chester) (Lab)
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11. When her Department plans to make an announcement on the award of the contract for the fleet solid support ships.

Nick Thomas-Symonds Portrait Nick Thomas-Symonds (Torfaen) (Lab)
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19. When her Department plans to make an announcement on the award of the contract for the fleet solid support ships.

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill

Debate between Nick Thomas-Symonds and Christian Matheson
2nd reading: House of Commons
Monday 11th September 2017

(6 years, 7 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Nick Thomas-Symonds Portrait Nick Thomas-Symonds
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My hon. Friend is absolutely right that it is fatally flawed, and that is why I will vote against it with hon. Friends in the Lobby tonight.

I will simply never be able to trust Tory Ministers with things like workers’ rights, environmental protections and consumer rights. Let us take workers’ rights as an example. The Prime Minister has promised to retain all our workers’ rights as long as she holds office. In light of recent events, I hardly think that is particularly comforting, but in case we have any other doubts, let us just see what the then Tory Employment Minister, currently the International Development Secretary, said during the referendum campaign. She gave a speech at the Institute of Directors on 17 May 2016, about a month before the referendum. What does she want to do? To quote her, she wants to

“halve the burdens of the EU social and employment legislation”.

That is what the Tory Employment Minister said at the time of the referendum. It is no surprise that the Tories cannot be trusted now.

Christian Matheson Portrait Christian Matheson (City of Chester) (Lab)
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Did my hon. Friend see last Tuesday’s Order Paper, which listed a whole bunch of private Members’ Bills tabled by Brexiteer Conservative Members, including a Bill to take away the working time directive?

Nick Thomas-Symonds Portrait Nick Thomas-Symonds
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I am grateful to my hon. Friend for drawing attention to that, and it simply reinforces the case we are making: that Tory Ministers simply cannot be trusted with powers of this nature.

We have also frequently heard the argument about the need for legal certainty, but the Bill as drafted does not provide that legal certainty. What guidance does it give to judges post-Brexit as to how they are supposed to interpret the law that originated from the European Union? Absolutely none. The idea of a preliminary reference to the European Court is of course no more, because of the red line on the ECJ. That is completely gone. The remedy that citizens once had to go to the European Court is also gone. So the idea that, post Brexit, the Bill will assist our constitutional arrangements and provide clarity is simply wrong.