All 2 Debates between Natascha Engel and Roger Gale

St John Ambulance

Debate between Natascha Engel and Roger Gale
Wednesday 22nd January 2014

(10 years, 10 months ago)

Westminster Hall
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Roger Gale Portrait Sir Roger Gale
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I get the sneaking feeling that my hon. Friends on either side of me are reading the next paragraphs of my speech.

Roger Gale Portrait Sir Roger Gale
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I shall now say—

Natascha Engel Portrait Natascha Engel
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Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Roger Gale Portrait Sir Roger Gale
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I am so sorry; yes, of course.

Natascha Engel Portrait Natascha Engel
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The hon. Gentleman is aware that I am supposed to be delivering an open lecture between half-past 2 and 4 o’clock—exactly when this important debate is taking place—so I am grateful to him for giving way.

I have had serious concerns for some time about that financial restructuring and about the reporting and accounting within St John Ambulance. I hope that the debate will make the Charity Commission look again at the organisation, the treatment of its members and, most of all, the governance of St John Ambulance, because the commission has not taken seriously enough what is going on within the organisation. I thank the hon. Gentleman very much for giving way, and I hope that he will forgive me for disappearing straight away.

Roger Gale Portrait Sir Roger Gale
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I apologise that I did not see the hon. Lady come into the Chamber. I had said that I would give way to her the moment she walked in because, for reasons that everyone in the House will understand, she has to leave for a long-standing commitment elsewhere. She is, however, one of the three Members who pitched for the debate—my hon. Friend the Member for Canterbury and I were the others—and I thank her for her support.

I happen to be a supporter of a significant international charity with which I am fairly heavily involved, so I am aware that fundraising in times of austerity is not easy, that returns on investments may be low and that great care and caution have to be taken to protect assets, staff, and the aims and objectives of the charitable organisation. The reaction of St John Ambulance to the situation it faced—due, I believe, to mismanagement—appears to have been draconian and, to say the least, badly handled. It has cost the charity many members and loyal staff, as well as much support in the country.

Faced with severe losses, St John embarked on a national reorganisation in 2011. It said that that was undertaken following full consultation, but as one who was only remotely and peripherally involved, I am in a position to say that no one within the mantled ranks of the priory appears to have been listening and that such consultation as did take place was tardy, inadequate, unheeded and designed to promote and implement decisions that had already been taken. I believe—in fact, I know—that I am not alone in that experience.

On the lines of an experiment conducted by the UK branch of the Red Cross, the St John counties were abolished, with eight regional organisations put in their place. As my hon. Friend the Member for Braintree (Mr Newmark) indicated, any organisation faced with difficulties has the absolute right to restructure. St John, however, might have heeded the results of the Red Cross adventure, which showed that the loss of local ownership led to a loss of membership, support and local income. That process ended with a reversal of the decision.

Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill

Debate between Natascha Engel and Roger Gale
Monday 18th October 2010

(14 years, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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Roger Gale Portrait The Temporary Chair (Mr Roger Gale)
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Order. I should like to curtail interventions to intervention length.

Natascha Engel Portrait Natascha Engel
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But they are so worth it!