Debates between Maria Caulfield and Stuart C McDonald during the 2019-2024 Parliament

Draft Equality Act 2010 (Amendment) Regulations 2023

Debate between Maria Caulfield and Stuart C McDonald
Wednesday 6th December 2023

(10 months ago)

General Committees
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Maria Caulfield Portrait Maria Caulfield
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That is open to interpretation, and that is exactly what the courts are there for: to decide how existing laws are interpreted. However, the CHEZ judgment is part of existing case law. It is the basis of how discrimination is determined right now. If we did not have this instrument and we had not left the EU, that would continue to be the case. At the end of this month, if we do not retain the law, those protections for pregnant women, disabled people and those with protected characteristics will fall completely. The CHEZ judgment is actually the basis of case law.

Stuart C McDonald Portrait Stuart C. McDonald
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Will the Minister give way?

Maria Caulfield Portrait Maria Caulfield
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I do not wish to test your patience, Mr Hollobone, but I will take a final intervention.

Stuart C McDonald Portrait Stuart C. McDonald
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I am trying to be helpful to the Minister here. Putting aside all those arguments, I am not an employment lawyer, and I did not prepare on this particular case in advance. However, a more fundamental point is that that judgment is part of UK law just now. It would be outrageous if, through the statutory instrument procedure, we just decided to dump it overnight. If people have a beef with that particular case, they should promote a private Member’s Bill or encourage the Government to bring in another bit of legislation. Today is about a statutory instrument preserving the status quo. Any other course of action from the Government would be completely unacceptable.

Maria Caulfield Portrait Maria Caulfield
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Absolutely; I agree with the hon. Gentleman on that point. I hope that in debating the statutory instrument, colleagues will realise that whatever we think about which laws we retain or revoke, it is based on the CHEZ ruling of 2015. That will not change after the statutory instrument is approved on the Floor of the House. There is no change: it is still based on the exact same principles since the CHEZ ruling of 2015. It is really important that we retain those protections, because without them vulnerable groups will be left without protection and face discrimination. I hope that colleagues will join me in supporting the regulations, which I commend to the Committee.

Question put and agreed to.

Resolved,

That the Committee has considered the draft Equality Act 2010 (Amendment) Regulations 2023.