Southern Rail: Gibb Report Debate

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Department: Department for Transport

Southern Rail: Gibb Report

Lord Tebbit Excerpts
Tuesday 27th June 2017

(7 years, 4 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Callanan Portrait Lord Callanan
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Chris Gibb’s report sets out several reasons why Southern Rail faced problems last year, including disruption from infrastructure works, the process of introducing new trains and insufficient numbers of drivers at the start of the franchise. The Secretary of State has now ordered the operator to reduce reliance on overtime, which means that it has started to increase the number of drivers, although that has an 18-month lead time. We decided to proceed with 34 of Chris Gibb’s 38 recommendations, but the transfer of additional lines to TfL was not one that we proceeded with.

Lord Tebbit Portrait Lord Tebbit (Con)
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My Lords, will my noble friend refrain from giving TfL any more responsibilities until it has cleared up the mess of the roadworks around the Palace of Westminster, which are being conducted in an inconceivably incompetent manner? Will he also consider whether it is really sensible to have the ownership and management of the track and of the trains in separate hands? It did not work in that way in the great days of the LNER, the GWR and the Southern Railway before the Second World War. It would be better to put those aspects back together again; then, we might have sensible management.

Lord Callanan Portrait Lord Callanan
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I agree with the first part of my noble friend’s remarks but disagree with the second part.