Debates between Lord Rogan and Lord Cormack during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Tue 19th Mar 2019
Northern Ireland (Regional Rates and Energy) (No. 2) Bill
Lords Chamber

Committee: 1st sitting (Hansard): House of Lords & Report stage (Hansard): House of Lords

Northern Ireland (Regional Rates and Energy) (No. 2) Bill

Debate between Lord Rogan and Lord Cormack
Committee: 1st sitting (Hansard): House of Lords & Report stage (Hansard): House of Lords
Tuesday 19th March 2019

(5 years, 8 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Rogan Portrait Lord Rogan (UUP)
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My Lords, I find it interesting that I am addressing your Lordships this evening from these Benches.

Lord Cormack Portrait Lord Cormack
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The noble Lord is very welcome to stay.

Lord Rogan Portrait Lord Rogan
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I support the two amendments in my name and the name of my noble friend Lord Empey.

I have said this several times over the last two years and will continue to say it, but it is a matter of deep regret that we are debating this at all. Rather than in your Lordships’ House, it should be taking place in the Northern Ireland Assembly, with local representatives defending the Bill’s provisions rather than the Minister—much as we enjoy seeing a master at work.

Of course, the scandal surrounding the RHI scheme itself has much to do with why we are discussing the subject here rather than the MLAs debating it at Stormont. Noble Lords can argue about whether RHI was the principal reason Sinn Féin/IRA chose to collapse the Executive when Martin McGuinness resigned as Deputy First Minister. What is beyond dispute, however, is that the scheme has been a catastrophe. There must surely be consequences for those responsible for its many failings when Sir Patrick Coghlin and his excellent team produce their final report.

The RHI inquiry also exposed deep failings in the system of governance at Stormont, which must be addressed if the Assembly’s eventual resurrection—should that happen—is to be sustainable and lasting. One must live in hope if nothing else.