Representation of the People (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) Regulations 2025 Debate

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Lord Murphy of Torfaen

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Representation of the People (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) Regulations 2025

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Monday 20th January 2025

(1 day, 10 hours ago)

Grand Committee
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If noble Lords will bear with me, I want to quickly mention two aspects that are not included in this legislation, but that I would like to see at some stage. First, I would like to see an exclusion zone around polling stations, because voters and electors are intimidated going into polling stations in Northern Ireland. Secondly, we need to address the issue of polling agents who sit in the polling booth on behalf of parties and take information out to their supporters, who then go rounding up people who have not voted. That is a fact that we have reported on a regular basis, but nothing is done about it. Until something is done in legislation, we will not have progress.
Lord Murphy of Torfaen Portrait Lord Murphy of Torfaen (Lab)
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My Lords, I support this statutory instrument. It is very important that we try to ensure that as many as people as possible vote in Northern Ireland, and indeed the rest of the United Kingdom—

Lord Murphy of Torfaen Portrait Lord Murphy of Torfaen (Lab)
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Legally—I will come to that in a moment. Therefore, these regulations are absolutely right. We need to ensure that turnout is up, and that people vote and are encouraged to vote. I am quite attracted by the suggestion of the noble Lord, Lord Hayward, about the increased use of registering online, which is very sensible in this digital age. However, I agree with noble Lords who have spoken about the difficulties one encounters in Northern Ireland because of fraud and intimidation.

One of the first shocks I had when I became a Minister in Northern Ireland was to meet with the—very famous—chief electoral officer, who announced the referendum result in 1998. He came to my office in Millbank with a suitcase, which he plonked on my desk. He opened it up, and there were between 200 and 300 votes, every one of which was illegal. Obviously, we knew that this was going on, but to have it from the horse’s mouth, so to speak, concentrated the mind.

The noble Lord, Lord Elliott, was right about the closeness of results in Northern Ireland, not just for the general election but for local government elections and elections to the Assembly. Often, the complicated PR system over there, STV, means that in many cases it literally comes down to single figures. Clearly, there are people elected to public bodies in Northern Ireland who should not be because of the system that I have just described.

I agree with what has been recommended to us, but I ask my noble friend the Minister to keep an eye on developments in Northern Ireland and to work with the chief electoral officer to ensure that we are increasingly aware of fraud and intimidation and that we have a healthy system of democracy in Northern Ireland—one which, as I said earlier, we can improve so that people are voting, the turnout goes up and we get a true representation of what people feel.

Baroness Suttie Portrait Baroness Suttie (LD)
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My Lords, this has been an interesting short debate that strayed a little beyond these regulations, here and there. I thank the Minister for her introduction and the Electoral Commission for the briefing it provided ahead of this debate. I shall be extremely brief.

We support these regulations and see them as a necessary short-term fix to ensure that we do not lose the 87,000 electors from the register. However, I hope the Minister will accept that we probably have to revisit comprehensive, long-term reform of the electoral registration process in Northern Ireland. It is now essential that we modernise the system, perhaps especially ahead of the next scheduled canvass in 2030. Could the Minister say whether the Government intend at some point to introduce automatic or automated voter registration, whether they intend to use enhanced government or local government datasets for a more targeted canvass in Northern Ireland and whether they intend to incorporate electoral registration into other public service transactions to improve efficiency and accessibility?

I agree with the questions asked by the noble Lord, Lord Hayward, and the noble Baroness, Lady Ritchie, to get a government response on the increased use of online registration. It is an extremely important point and I look forward to the Minister’s reply.

As other noble Lords have said, confidence in the accuracy and completeness of the electoral registration processes in Northern Ireland is a key part of the democratic process. This measure, although a short-term fix, is important to allow 87,000 electors not to fall off, but I hope that we will look at this more comprehensively in future.