Energy: Winter Fuel Payment Debate

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Department: Department for Work and Pensions

Energy: Winter Fuel Payment

Lord McKenzie of Luton Excerpts
Monday 19th December 2011

(12 years, 5 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Freud Portrait Lord Freud
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No, I do not think so. This is just a universal benefit that is paid on a simple basis to households that need it. Older people above 80 receive rather more than those below that age.

Lord McKenzie of Luton Portrait Lord McKenzie of Luton
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My Lords, for the winter fuel allowance to be put to good effect, you have to have a home to heat. Sadly, we know that homelessness is on the increase in our country. The Minister is always keen to look at funding within fixed envelopes, but on what does he base his philosophy for supporting the retention of tax-free winter fuel allowances for higher-rate taxpayers, rather than providing more support for the homeless?

Lord Freud Portrait Lord Freud
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My Lords, I hope that I have made it quite clear that when you have a universal benefit you pay it out on a simplified basis. Because it is a household payment, it would be enormously complicated to change that. Clearly, it could be done. There has been a small increase in homelessness but it remains at historically low levels. We are watching the figures very closely and it is a priority for this Government that we do not see an excessive rise in homelessness.