Covid-19: Personal Protective Equipment Debate

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Department: Department of Health and Social Care

Covid-19: Personal Protective Equipment

Lord McFall of Alcluith Excerpts
Thursday 23rd April 2020

(4 years, 7 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Bethell Portrait Lord Bethell
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The noble Baroness raises a good point. I do not know the precise answer and would be glad to write to her with a clear answer.

Lord McFall of Alcluith Portrait The Senior Deputy Speaker (Lord McFall of Alcluith)
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Lord Hannay of Chiswick. Lord Hannay? We will go on to the noble Baroness, Lady Ramsay of Cartvale.

Baroness Ramsay of Cartvale Portrait Baroness Ramsay of Cartvale (Lab)
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My Lords, I have been puzzled—not for the first time—on the PPE distribution question. The UK has always had a system and structure of deciding on priorities of threats to the security and well-being of the United Kingdom. Pandemics have been on that list and given very high priority for a number of years. If that system is functioning, as it normally does very well, how can we have this problem of production, procurement and distribution of PPE? Is it working as it used to? If not, is that because there has been a lack of resources into it in recent years?

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Lord Bethell Portrait Lord Bethell
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The noble Lord asked for clarity; let me be clear. The NHS is the client. The department of health pays the bills. Other departments are doing their bit to help. We are very grateful to the Cabinet Office in particular for providing contract and procurement staff, and we are thankful to all other departments that have lent us their staff or their logistical skills in delivering our PPE commitments.

Lord McFall of Alcluith Portrait The Senior Deputy Speaker
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My Lords, the time allowed for this Question has elapsed. The Virtual Proceedings will now adjourn until 1 pm for the debate in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Wheeler.