COP 28

Lord Hamilton of Epsom Excerpts
Wednesday 17th May 2023

(1 year ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Callanan Portrait Lord Callanan (Con)
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We are committed to phasing out fossil fuels and I outlined in a previous answer the progress we are making. But it is a transition: we have a requirement for fossil fuels during that transition period and have had exchanges about that before. I do not know the details of the declaration that the noble Baroness refers to, but I will certainly have a look at it.

Lord Hamilton of Epsom Portrait Lord Hamilton of Epsom (Con)
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My noble friend made reference to our co-operation with other countries. Do they include China and India, which continue to build coal-fired power stations and make the attainment of net zero pretty unlikely?

Lord Callanan Portrait Lord Callanan (Con)
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My noble friend makes an important point. We continue to liaise with and talk to those countries, as we do many others. The situation is complicated. While it is true that China continues to expand its coal-fired generation, it has also massively increased use of renewables. In fact, it has the largest offshore wind sector in the world now; it took over our lead on that.