Debates between Lord Gardiner of Kimble and Lord Redesdale during the 2015-2017 Parliament

Thu 3rd Mar 2016

Water Billing

Debate between Lord Gardiner of Kimble and Lord Redesdale
Thursday 3rd March 2016

(8 years, 8 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Redesdale Portrait Lord Redesdale
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To ask Her Majesty’s Government what assessment they have made of how many non-domestic water bills are estimated, rather than calculated through automatic meter readings.

Lord Gardiner of Kimble Portrait Lord Gardiner of Kimble (Con)
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My Lords, the choice of meter type and frequency of meter readings is a matter for water companies and their customers. There is a trend towards smart meters. This varies by company and by customer, reflecting factors such as water scarcity and customer preference. Not all will benefit from sophisticated data and fitting new meters will affect the bills of all customers. Water companies therefore need to consider all the costs and benefits when taking any decision.

Lord Redesdale Portrait Lord Redesdale (LD)
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My Lords, I declare an interest as CEO of the Energy Managers Association. Our members are the ones who will be buying our water in the non-domestic marketplace. However, about 80% of all meters are not AMR or smart meters, so they cannot get the data on whether they are actually saving water or finance. As the purpose of deregulation of this marketplace was to introduce competition, will the Government ensure that this is kept under constant review? Also, following on from the Minister’s Answer, who is the customer? In the non-domestic sector the customer is the water retailer. There is no direct link between the company and the customer on the ground.

Lord Gardiner of Kimble Portrait Lord Gardiner of Kimble
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My Lords, the meter data, of course, belong to the customer. Therefore, any company wanting access will have to agree with the customer. Indeed, the new retail system that is coming in, which is designed to be of enormous benefit to the consumer, will provide an opportunity for greater competition. We believe that it will be of benefit, in this case, to the non-household customer as a beginning, but clearly we will consider how best we can bring better competition for the whole water market, because we think that competition in this sector is going to have benefits.