EU and NATO: Peace in Europe

Lord Dykes Excerpts
Thursday 28th April 2011

(13 years, 6 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Howell of Guildford Portrait Lord Howell of Guildford
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I agree with what the noble Lord, Lord Hannay, said, with great moderation, that a beauty contest between these organisations is rather pointless. All one wants to avoid is immoderate statements claiming perfection for one against the other. All these institutions have played their part. Occasionally some enthusiasts get a bit too outspoken on the part that one institution has played and that is the time for moderation.

Lord Dykes Portrait Lord Dykes
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I thank my noble friend the Minister for his comprehensive reply to such a silly, childish and provocative question. Does he agree, further to the remarks of the noble Lord, Lord Tomlinson, that the east European countries becoming member states of the European Union has contributed massively to continued peace?

Lord Howell of Guildford Portrait Lord Howell of Guildford
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I think I heard a bit of immoderation the other way at that point. There is reason and sense in all these points of view and if anyone strives to go too far in claiming perfection for one organisation over the other it is bound to produce a reaction, which is just what we are hearing today.