Underoccupancy Charge: Carers Debate

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Department: Department for Work and Pensions

Underoccupancy Charge: Carers

Lord Christopher Excerpts
Monday 10th November 2014

(9 years, 6 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Freud Portrait Lord Freud
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As I said, we have made sure that long-term discretionary housing payments can be made. We have also provided guidance to make it clear that where claimants are using their disability payments for needs caused by their disability, such as paying for care or Motability schemes, those would not be included in the calculation.

Lord Christopher Portrait Lord Christopher (Lab)
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My Lords, is it not the case that it is not just outrageous but downright cruel to require a partner—presumably a wife or a husband—whose day may be appalling anyway, to sleep in the same room as the disabled person? I find that statement utterly outrageous.

Lord Freud Portrait Lord Freud
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About 40,000 couples in which one is looking after the other were covered by the spare room policy when it was introduced. That is about 6% of the total. The discretionary housing payment system was set up precisely to look at circumstances in which the couple could not share a room—because, of course, many of them could, even though there was a disability.