Debates between Lord Bridges of Headley and Lord Lisvane during the 2015-2017 Parliament

The Process for Triggering Article 50

Debate between Lord Bridges of Headley and Lord Lisvane
Tuesday 24th January 2017

(7 years, 10 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Bridges of Headley Portrait Lord Bridges of Headley
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I thank the noble Lord for those extremely wise words. I concur with him absolutely. As I said, the Government are intent on delivering the outcome of the referendum, and we will see that through.

Lord Lisvane Portrait Lord Lisvane (CB)
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My Lords, would the Minister like to hazard a guess as to whether provision for a post-negotiation referendum would be within the scope of an Article 50 Bill?

Lord Bridges of Headley Portrait Lord Bridges of Headley
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I think the noble Lord answers the question himself by asking whether I would like to hazard a guess. I do not like guessing at the Dispatch Box.

Security: State Procession

Debate between Lord Bridges of Headley and Lord Lisvane
Thursday 9th July 2015

(9 years, 4 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Bridges of Headley Portrait Lord Bridges of Headley
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I am sorry that noble Lords shake their heads but, as my right honourable friend the Chancellor pointed out yesterday, we need to do it. Since 2010 the Government have generated £1.4 billion in land and building sales while the running costs of the estate have fallen by £647 million compared with 2009-10. Moreover we have done that while ensuring that security is upheld, as I have explained to the noble Lord.

Lord Lisvane Portrait Lord Lisvane (CB)
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My Lords, as someone who sought to buy the Curtis Green building for parliamentary use rather than as a luxury hotel, I commend the noble Lord, Lord Wallace of Saltaire, for raising this issue. It is extremely important that a full formal CPNI security assessment is given to Ministers in the case of each building. I ask the Minister to bear in mind that many of these buildings are connected underground. I also ask him to ignore the siren voices which suggest that security can be assured simply by sealing tunnels. It cannot; ask anybody in Hatton Garden.

Lord Bridges of Headley Portrait Lord Bridges of Headley
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There are service ducts under many buildings for electricity, telecommunications and other services, and any security risks in relation to them, as with any other part of the buildings, have been assessed and taken into account in the sale of the leases. I need to repeat that the security agencies are involved in all disposals of government property and their advice is always taken into account.