Cities and Local Government Devolution Bill [HL] Debate

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Lord Beecham

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Cities and Local Government Devolution Bill [HL]

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Monday 29th June 2015

(8 years, 10 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Baroness Williams of Trafford Portrait Baroness Williams of Trafford
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I would imagine it is a statutory body. May I confirm that, because I am not entirely certain? I will confirm that either during this debate or after the dinner break on subsequent amendments.

Lord Beecham Portrait Lord Beecham (Lab)
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I would like to help, if I might, because the noble Baroness is obviously in difficulty. This question is a health issue and not her department. When we are talking about suing, we are talking not about suing for damages; we are talking about judicial review. I therefore suggest that somebody gives the Minister some advice, not necessarily now but certainly before we get to Report, on where and against whom action for judicial review might be issued in relation to decisions taken around the health service by whomever is responsible under these deals. That is the best way to clarify the position. I do not expect the Minister even with the assistance of the Box to be able to answer that now, but it should be answerable before we get to Report.

Baroness Williams of Trafford Portrait Baroness Williams of Trafford
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I thank the noble Lord very much indeed for that intervention.

Finally, the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, asked me to define “public authority”. It is any authority in the public sector, including all public bodies and NHS bodies, Ministers of the Crown and government departments. New subsection (4) in Clause 6 provides that, in the case of the Bill, it,

“does not include a county council or district council”.

With that, I ask the noble Lord to withdraw his amendment.