All 5 Debates between Kemi Badenoch and Jesse Norman

Tue 16th Jun 2020
Finance Bill (Eighth sitting)
Public Bill Committees

Committee stage: 8th sitting & Committee Debate: 8th sitting: House of Commons
Thu 4th Jun 2020
Finance Bill (First sitting)
Public Bill Committees

Committee stage: 1st sitting & Committee Debate: 1st sitting: House of Commons

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Kemi Badenoch and Jesse Norman
Wednesday 22nd September 2021

(2 years, 7 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Jesse Norman Portrait Jesse Norman (Hereford and South Herefordshire) (Con)
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It is a delight to address my beloved former colleague on the Treasury Bench. Is she aware of the extraordinary work being done in the new model of technology and engineering in a radical new form of tertiary educational institution in Hereford that blends further education and higher education with a commitment to the enfranchisement, support and development of women in engineering?

Kemi Badenoch Portrait Kemi Badenoch
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I was not aware of the fantastic work that is taking place in Hereford, although I suspect that the Minister for Women and Equalities, my right hon. Friend the Member for South West Norfolk (Elizabeth Truss), is. I would particularly love to hear more about this, and I would be very happy for my right hon. Friend to write to me and share more about what is taking place there.

Finance (No.2) Bill (First sitting)

Debate between Kemi Badenoch and Jesse Norman
Thursday 22nd April 2021

(3 years ago)

Public Bill Committees
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Kemi Badenoch Portrait Kemi Badenoch
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for his questions. He raises an interesting point. We have been discussing industry’s concerns for some time over the lack of clarity on decommissioning expenses incurred prior to the approval of an abandonment programme. Industry already supports the measure. We consulted it on the draft legislation, and the clause takes account of comments received, particularly on the clawback mechanism that the hon. Gentleman refers to. We have now excluded the ongoing maintenance costs of assets waiting to be decommissioned from the clawback.

On clawbacks specifically, where expenditure is claimed on decommissioning in anticipation of an approval, the legislation allows five years for that approval to be in place before the clawback is triggered. We listened to industry’s comments during our consultation, and adjustments have been made to the clawback to exclude maintenance costs from the mechanism. The Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy is responsible for overseeing decommissioning work on the UKCS. Where the anticipated approval condition or agreement is not approved by BEIS in the five-year period, it is appropriate for any relief to be clawed back. The legislation ensures that only legitimate decommissioning expenses qualify, and the clawback provides an important protection for the Exchequer.

Question put and agreed to.

Clause 16 accordingly ordered to stand part of the Bill.

Clause 17

Extensions of plant or machinery leases for reasons related to coronavirus

Question proposed, That the clause stand part of the Bill.

Jesse Norman Portrait Jesse Norman
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The clause makes provision for an easement for plant and machinery leases caught by anti-avoidance legislation when extended due to coronavirus. The easement has the effect of turning off the anti-avoidance legislation under specific circumstances. The reason for that is that HMRC has identified an issue where some plant or machinery leases could be adversely affected by the Government’s anti-avoidance legislation. This relates to specific circumstances where a lease is extended due to covid-19, and creates unexpected and unwelcome outcomes for many lessors and lessees. Therefore, at the Budget, the Government announced changes to ensure that the anti-avoidance mechanism is not unnecessarily triggered by legitimate commercial activity.

The measure will affect leases where a relevant change in consideration is implemented between 1 January 2020 and 30 June 2021. It is an easement, restoring eligibility to claim capital allowances to the position as originally intended immediately prior to the date of the change in consideration due under the lease. If not deemed appropriate, either party may choose not to apply this treatment, ensuring that no one will be left worse off by the change. The Government expect that the services, construction, manufacturing and agricultural sectors, in particular, will be positively affected by the changes.

The measure is important in assisting businesses that have been badly hit in their legitimate activity by the effects of the pandemic and in ensuring that they are not struck by unexpected tax charges. I therefore move that the clause stand part of the Bill.

Finance (No.2) Bill (First sitting)

Debate between Kemi Badenoch and Jesse Norman
Thursday 22nd April 2021

(3 years ago)

Public Bill Committees
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Kemi Badenoch Portrait Kemi Badenoch
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for his questions. He raises an interesting point. We have been discussing industry’s concerns for some time over the lack of clarity on decommissioning expenses incurred prior to the approval of an abandonment programme. Industry already supports the measure. We consulted it on the draft legislation, and the clause takes account of comments received, particularly on the clawback mechanism that the hon. Gentleman refers to. We have now excluded the ongoing maintenance costs of assets waiting to be decommissioned from the clawback.

On clawbacks specifically, where expenditure is claimed on decommissioning in anticipation of an approval, the legislation allows five years for that approval to be in place before the clawback is triggered. We listened to industry’s comments during our consultation, and adjustments have been made to the clawback to exclude maintenance costs from the mechanism. The Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy is responsible for overseeing decommissioning work on the UKCS. Where the anticipated approval condition or agreement is not approved by BEIS in the five-year period, it is appropriate for any relief to be clawed back. The legislation ensures that only legitimate decommissioning expenses qualify, and the clawback provides an important protection for the Exchequer.

Question put and agreed to.

Clause 16 accordingly ordered to stand part of the Bill.

Clause 17

Extensions of plant or machinery leases for reasons related to coronavirus

Question proposed, That the clause stand part of the Bill.

Jesse Norman Portrait Jesse Norman
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The clause makes provision for an easement for plant and machinery leases caught by anti-avoidance legislation when extended due to coronavirus. The easement has the effect of turning off the anti-avoidance legislation under specific circumstances. The reason for that is that HMRC has identified an issue where some plant or machinery leases could be adversely affected by the Government’s anti-avoidance legislation. This relates to specific circumstances where a lease is extended due to covid-19, and creates unexpected and unwelcome outcomes for many lessors and lessees. Therefore, at the Budget, the Government announced changes to ensure that the anti-avoidance mechanism is not unnecessarily triggered by legitimate commercial activity.

The measure will affect leases where a relevant change in consideration is implemented between 1 January 2020 and 30 June 2021. It is an easement, restoring eligibility to claim capital allowances to the position as originally intended immediately prior to the date of the change in consideration due under the lease. If not deemed appropriate, either party may choose not to apply this treatment, ensuring that no one will be left worse off by the change. The Government expect that the services, construction, manufacturing and agricultural sectors, in particular, will be positively affected by the changes.

The measure is important in assisting businesses that have been badly hit in their legitimate activity by the effects of the pandemic and in ensuring that they are not struck by unexpected tax charges. I therefore move that the clause stand part of the Bill.

Finance Bill (Eighth sitting)

Debate between Kemi Badenoch and Jesse Norman
Committee stage & Committee Debate: 8th sitting: House of Commons
Tuesday 16th June 2020

(3 years, 10 months ago)

Public Bill Committees
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Jesse Norman Portrait Jesse Norman
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I thank the hon. Gentleman for his questions. We fully appreciate the degree of concern that has been shown by the industry. As he will be aware, we are under an obligation to abide by EU judgments while we remain under the withdrawal agreement. The proposal underlines how seriously we take legal obligations that have been incurred in the EU withdrawal agreement, and that includes implementing the result of the European Court of Justice judgment.

It should be made clear that, during the transition period, if the Commission were not convinced that necessary steps had been taken to implement the judgement, it could, in principle, refer the case back to the European Court and ask it to levy fines for non-compliance. Those fines can be pretty substantial—up to €792,000 a day plus a potential one-off fine of at least €10 million—so we are very focused on communicating the seriousness of our intent in passing this enabling legislation. We do not believe that paying fines to the EU, especially as we have now left the EU, would be an effective or good use of taxpayers’ money, not least when we are making broader changes to reduce the entitlement to use red diesel more widely.

It is worth pointing out one other thing: we have not set an implementation date. The reason is that we recognise that it is important for Government to continue to work with users of private pleasure craft and with fuel suppliers to understand how they can implement the changes, precisely to make sure that those changes are as little onerous and as easy to enact as they can be. It is only once we have seen that consultation, gone through that process, reflected further on it and had a chance to consider how the legislation could be framed that we will be able to return to this issue.

Question put and agreed to.

Clause 86 accordingly ordered to stand part of the Bill.

Schedule 10 agreed to.

Clause 87

Rates of air passenger duty from 1 April 2021

Question proposed, That the clause stand part of the Bill.

Kemi Badenoch Portrait The Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury (Kemi Badenoch)
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Clause 87 makes changes to ensure that the long-haul rates of air passenger duty for the tax year 2021-22 increase in line with the retail price index. The change will make sure that the aviation sector continues to play its part in contributing towards funding our vital public services.

Aviation plays a crucial role in keeping Britain open for business, and the UK Government are keen to support its long-term success. Indeed, the UK has one of the highest direct connectivity scores in Europe, according to the latest Airports Council International Europe report. The Government appreciate the difficulties that the airline industry currently faces as a result of coronavirus. That is why the Chancellor provided a comprehensive package for all businesses affected by the virus on 20 March. However, as air passenger duty is paid on a per passenger basis, the recent decline in passenger demand will have resulted in a reduction in air passenger duty liabilities for airlines. As the industry returns to health, it is right that the revenue raised from air passenger duty should continue to remain in line.

The clause increases the long-haul reduced rate for economy class nominally by only £2 and the standard rate for all classes above economy by £4—a real-terms freeze. The rounding of air passenger duty raised to the nearest £1 means that short-haul rates will remain frozen in nominal terms for the eighth year in a row, which benefits about 80% of all airline passengers. More broadly, the Government will consult on aviation tax reform. As part of the consultation, we will consider the case for changing the air passenger duty treatment of domestic flights, such as reintroducing the return leg exemption, and for increasing the number of international distance bands.

The changes made by the clause will increase the long-haul APD rates for the tax year 2021-22 by the RPI. Air passenger duty is a fair and efficient tax, where the amount paid corresponds to the distance and class of travel of the passenger and is due only when airlines are flying passengers. The changes ensure that the aviation sector will continue to play its part in contributing towards funding our vital public services. I therefore commend the clause to the Committee.

Finance Bill (First sitting)

Debate between Kemi Badenoch and Jesse Norman
Committee stage & Committee Debate: 1st sitting: House of Commons
Thursday 4th June 2020

(3 years, 10 months ago)

Public Bill Committees
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Kemi Badenoch Portrait Kemi Badenoch
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I thank both hon. Members for the points that they have made and the good questions they asked. I reiterate that tackling climate change and improving the environment are top priorities of the Government. The UK is a world leader on climate change. The reason why we are doing this is to address several things at once.

Let us remind ourselves what the WLTP is. It is designed to ensure that we are reflecting real world driving conditions more accurately by including a longer test time. The aim is to reduce the 40% gap between lab tests and real world driving. We have put many other levers in place to address the broader issue of climate change.

I accept the point about complexity—I recognise the need to ensure that this does not have an overall impact on the consumer. One of the reasons why we are phasing it in this way is to better protect the automotive sector. I thank both Members for the points they made.

Question put and agreed to.

Clause 7 accordingly ordered to stand part of the Bill.

Clauses 8 and 9 ordered to stand part of the Bill.

Clause 10

Apprenticeship bursaries paid to persons leaving local authority care

Question proposed, That the clause stand part of the Bill.

Jesse Norman Portrait Jesse Norman
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Clause 10 exempts care leavers’ apprenticeship bursary payments from income tax. This Bill contains areas on which there will be disagreements across the Committee, and areas that the Opposition Front-Bench team has noted that it wants to prioritise in scrutinising the Government, but there are other clauses that are essentially technical in nature on which I doubt there is any serious disagreement about their importance or intent. This, I suggest, is one of those clauses.

Young people who are in care or have left care who choose to start an apprenticeship receive a £1,000 bursary to help them to make the transition to the workplace for their practical studies. The extra financial support is for those aged 16 to 24 and living in England. Payments such as the care leavers’ apprenticeship bursary would normally be subject to income tax, as such payments relate to employment. Changes made by clause 10 mean that bursary payments made to care leavers who start an apprenticeship are exempt from income tax.

The changes affirm the Government’s commitment to support care leavers and ensure that those in receipt of the bursary can benefit by the full amount. The clause ensures that care leavers starting an apprenticeship will benefit from 100% of the bursary value. It is the right thing to do and I commend the clause to the Committee.