EU Council and Woolwich Debate

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Department: Cabinet Office

EU Council and Woolwich

Julian Huppert Excerpts
Monday 3rd June 2013

(11 years, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. I am keen to accommodate remaining colleagues but there is some considerable pressure on time. Therefore I am looking for a sharp mind and pithy expression, and I need look no further than Dr Julian Huppert.

Julian Huppert Portrait Dr Julian Huppert (Cambridge) (LD)
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The Prime Minister is right to say that we should not be cowed by terror and to reject knee-jerk reactions. Will he therefore join me in criticising those who seek to make use of the brutal murder of Drummer Rigby as a reason to advocate the full powers of a snoopers charter, which would not have prevented this tragedy from happening but would treat us all as suspects?

Lord Cameron of Chipping Norton Portrait The Prime Minister
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I do not think it is helpful to refer to taking action on communications data as a snoopers charter. We use communications data now—our police and Security Service use it now to combat rape, to trace children who have been abducted, to combat murder. In 95% of serious crimes, the police are using not the content of a phone call, but the data about the phone call—when it was made and who it was between. That is vitally important and we must have a mature and grown-up debate in this House about what we do as telephony moves on to the internet. If we do not have that debate, we are not keeping our country safe.