Affordable Homes Bill

Jonathan Reynolds Excerpts
Friday 5th September 2014

(10 years, 3 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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David Nuttall Portrait Mr Nuttall
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I am grateful to my hon. Friend for making that point, which he will hear a little more about in my speech.

Jonathan Reynolds Portrait Jonathan Reynolds (Stalybridge and Hyde) (Lab/Co-op)
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I want to ask about the downsizing and housing allocation point. The hon. Gentleman and I represent relatively similar constituencies, which are both parts of Greater Manchester. In my area, 1,636 people were affected by the bedroom tax in March 2013. A year later, the figure was 300 less, but only 59 of those 300 people have been able to downsize. That suggests that it is simply not possible for downsizing to happen in the real world in the way that Conservative MPs believe it will. What is the figure for Bury? If it is a similar figure, surely that should ring alarm bells for the hon. Gentleman about the policy not working as he believes it should.

David Nuttall Portrait Mr Nuttall
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I think that the policy is working in all parts of the country. The facts show that, as time goes on, people are dealing with it in different ways.

Jonathan Reynolds Portrait Jonathan Reynolds
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Does the hon. Gentleman know the figure for Bury North if he is making that claim? I think that the figures are remarkable.

David Nuttall Portrait Mr Nuttall
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I do not have that set of figures in front of me, but the hon. Gentleman probably has them. The point is that in all parts of the country, the people who are affected by this measure are dealing with it in different ways. Many of them are finding smaller accommodation to live in. Some of them are choosing to continue living in the accommodation that they are in and to make up the shortfall caused by the deduction from their housing benefit from other resources.