John Pugh
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(12 years, 9 months ago)
Commons Chamber Elizabeth Truss
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Elizabeth Truss 
        
    
        
    
        I entirely agree with my hon. Friend. Another point that Alison Wolf made in her report is that we need more maths students: at present, universities are 200,000 short of the number that they want.
There are real problems with our current system, which is why we need to reform it. We need a system with which universities and employers are happy, and which provides the important subject knowledge that students need.
 John Pugh (Southport) (LD)
    
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            John Pugh (Southport) (LD) 
        
    
        
    
        I must tell the Minister, with respect, that I thought that the tone of her statement was wrong. It was a tad too aggressive, and unnecessarily so.
Is there not an anomaly at the heart of the Minister’s plans? She put a great deal of emphasis on the Russell Group. Does she not recognise that it is a self-selecting club and not a statutory body?
 Elizabeth Truss
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Elizabeth Truss 
        
    
        
    
        As my hon. Friend may know, there are various university bodies in operation. I have spoken to a lot of them, and also to a lot of vice-chancellors. We need a well-respected and rigorous organisation that will work with the other universities, but we also need an organisation that can hold the ring during the development of our reforms. Otherwise, confusion will be created.