Cancer Treatment and Prevention Debate
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(10 years, 8 months ago)
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I, too, congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Mid Derbyshire (Pauline Latham) on securing this important debate.
I will focus my remarks on the importance of early diagnosis, but in many respects we have already won that debate. In recent years, there has been a general awareness of that issue’s importance, so I will also focus on the importance of accountability within the NHS in ensuring that the measures introduced to encourage early diagnosis are followed through by NHS England. I speak as chairman of the all-party group on cancer, which has long recognised the importance of early diagnosis—we call it cancer’s magic key. There are very few magic keys in life that open doors to untold riches, but that key exists for cancer with early diagnosis.
Initially, we may need to be reminded of the scale of the problem. Members have already alluded to some of the statistics. The Government’s figures and many independent studies suggest that if we matched European averages on survival rates, we could save 5,000 lives a year in this country. Only a month ago, the OECD published a further study, which showed that we could save up to 10,000 lives a year if we matched international averages. That is the scale of the issue.
My hon. Friend the Member for Strangford (Jim Shannon) rightly suggested that the figures, which I think are from Macmillan Cancer Support, show that within 10 years, one in two people will be diagnosed with cancer during their lifetime. Another shocking statistic that illustrates the scale of the problem is that one in four cancers in this country is first diagnosed as late as at A and E, when it is, in far too many cases, far too late to treat. Rarely can we define the scale of a problem as precisely as that. We are only talking about averages here, but thousands of lives depend on our ability to come together—not just Parliament, but the cancer community as a whole and the NHS—to drive forward initiatives to promote earlier diagnosis and thereby raise survival rates.
One or two colleagues will remember that the all-party group first looked at the issue back in 2009, when we produced a report looking into cancer inequalities. We found that the NHS stood as much chance as any other health care system of getting patients who made it to the one-year point to the five-year point. Where the system failed, however, was in getting them to the one-year point. That suggested that the NHS was as good at treating cancer patients as anyone else, but was poor at detecting and diagnosing cancer in the first instance, and that accounted for why we were behind on cancer survival rates and averages.
All the evidence clearly showed that the NHS treated patients as well as any other system after the one-year point, but we fell down in getting them to it, and we never made up that gap. There are always dangers and pitfalls with comparisons—in France, for example, we are comparing with four or five cancer centres of excellence—but by and large the figures are robust in suggesting that we have a major problem with our survival rates.
What is the remedy? It could have been to bombard the NHS with even more targets on this, that and the other, such as better training for GPs or other initiatives, but we thought that there were enough targets in the system. We came up with the idea of putting one-year and five-year survival rates up in lights, broken down by clinical commissioning group—or primary care trust, as they were then. That is important, because we all know that late diagnosis makes for poor survival. Showing those survival rates at a local level would clearly show which CCGs were failing on early diagnosis. As the report and all the evidence shows, early diagnosis makes for better survival rates, particularly at the one- year level.
We have campaigned long and hard on the issue, and I am pleased to say that the Government have listened. There have been two big reforms of the health care system. One was the reorganisation, which I will not go into, because not all of us were as supportive of that as some might have liked. The second was the focus on outcomes, which will have the longer lasting effect, to the benefit of patients. That focus put the one and five-year survival rates in the NHS outcomes framework, which sets the parameters at a national level.
The one-year survival rates are in at the local level in the CCG outcomes indicator set. That is good news, because if the managements of CCGs at the bottom of that list are worth their salt—their salaries run into six figures—they will introduce a range of initiatives to boost their one-year figures. That can mean everything from better uptake of screening, to better prevention and awareness, to more diagnostics and primary care, to better GP training. It can be a whole host of initiatives—not in isolation, but taken together.
The bottom line is that it is incumbent on the management of a CCG with one-year figures at the bottom of the pile to get their act together and to introduce initiatives to encourage early diagnosis. If those initiatives are right and that early diagnosis is pushed forward, the one-year figures will rise. The mathematicians in the room will appreciate that if the low-hanging fruit on averages—the low figures at the bottom of the table—is picked off and those managements raise their game, that will have a disproportionate effect when it comes to averages for the group as a whole.
If we as a country are seriously going to set ourselves the target of saving an extra 5,000 lives by 2015, which would bring us only up to the average, and of perhaps exceeding that thereafter, we have to focus on how we can drive forward early diagnosis at a local level. One hopes that it all then becomes self-fulfilling, in that once the poorer CCGs start raising their game, others will do likewise, because no one will want to be at the bottom of the pack. That is why we as an all-party group have been delighted with the Government’s putting the one and five-year survival rates in at the national level, and the one-year survival rates in at the local level.
I will not muddy the waters by reminding everyone that because the population sizes of CCGs are smaller than those of PCTs, we have had to introduce some proxy measures, such as staging and emergency presentations, to complement the one-year figure and add to the overall picture. The bottom line is that we are focusing on early diagnosis through those figures, particularly the one-year figure going in at the local level.
I want to ask the Minister one question about something that she knows we have focused on in the past. The all-party group, the wider cancer community and other all-party groups have worked together as a team and should be congratulated, but despite the one-year figures in the CCG outcomes indicator set, the lines of accountability are still unclear. Who will actually ensure that CCGs will be held accountable for the figures? We have the tools, but if we do not use them, there is no point in having them.
Will the Minister provide clarity on what will happen if CCGs are at the bottom of the table year after year? There is no point in having one-year figures that show poor one-year survival rates, and therefore late diagnoses, if nothing happens as a result. Where are the levers of change? Where are the mechanisms to ensure that local managers are brought to account for their poor performance? We need to focus on that. Early diagnosis is important not only because it raises survival rates, but because it, along with the figures, will reduce disparities between CCGs when it comes to cancer. Poorly performing CCGs will have to raise their game, which will also serve to reduce inequalities across the system. It is unfortunately still a fact, at least to a certain extent, that cancer care in this country comes down to a postcode lottery.
Will the Minister please address the central issue of the levers of change—if not in this debate, then subsequently? I appreciate that many such functions are now the responsibility of NHS England and that the Department of Health has taken a step back, but the Government still have a responsibility to the taxpayer to ask questions and to ensure that improvements are followed through. The Minister has been gracious in that she will be formally responding to the all-party group’s report, “Cancer across the Domains”, and a meeting will follow, but we cannot leave such a great opportunity as this debate without raising the issue. I hope she will forgive me for pursuing the matter again, but it helps to keep the focus on the issue in hand.