Debates between Joanna Cherry and Tommy Sheppard during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Tue 12th Dec 2017
European Union (Withdrawal) Bill
Commons Chamber

Committee: 6th sitting: House of Commons

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill

Debate between Joanna Cherry and Tommy Sheppard
Tommy Sheppard Portrait Tommy Sheppard
- Hansard - - - Excerpts

No, the implication was clearly given that control would be taken back by the people. In fact, it seems that control is being taken back by the Executive. In as much as power is going anywhere, it is not coming into this Chamber, certainly at the moment.

Joanna Cherry Portrait Joanna Cherry (Edinburgh South West) (SNP)
- Hansard - -

I was struck by the rather sweeping statement by the right hon. Member for West Dorset (Sir Oliver Letwin), in reference to clause 7, that we apparently all know what “appropriate” means and that the courts will know what “appropriate” means. Does my hon. Friend, like me, look forward to hearing from the Minister what “appropriate” means, and does he, like me, agree with such distinguished lawyers as those at the Law Society of Scotland and JUSTICE that “appropriate” gives far too wide a discretion to the Government?

Tommy Sheppard Portrait Tommy Sheppard
- Hansard - - - Excerpts

I do indeed, and I will come on to that in just one moment.

--- Later in debate ---
Tommy Sheppard Portrait Tommy Sheppard
- Hansard - - - Excerpts

I accept that these things may be challenged, but I am trying to argue for a democratic process whereby it is the elected representatives of the people who debate and choose the policy direction in various areas.

Joanna Cherry Portrait Joanna Cherry
- Hansard - -

Is the point not really that, as has been pointed out by JUSTICE and the Law Society of Scotland, the term “appropriate” is so wide that it gives the courts a breadth of discretion that they themselves have told us that they do not want?

Tommy Sheppard Portrait Tommy Sheppard
- Hansard - - - Excerpts

Indeed. That takes me nicely to my next point, which concerns the word “appropriate”.