Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Jeff Smith and Jackie Doyle-Price

Tuesday 19th December 2017 Commons Chamber

[Jeff Smith (Manchester, Withington) (Lab)]

11. How many mental health staff the NHS employed in (a) 2010 and (b) 2017.

[The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Health (Jackie Doyle-Price)]

Although we cannot meaningfully compare between 2010 and today, I can advise that the number of NHS staff working in mental health and learning disability trusts was 162,611 in July 2013 and 166,905 in July 2017—an increase of 4,334.

[Jeff Smith]

That did not actually answer my question. Earlier, my hon. Friend the Member for Ellesmere Port and Neston (Justin Madders) read out a long list of concerned professionals, so let me add one more—Professor Wendy Burn, the president of the Royal College of Psychiatry, who said after the Budget:

“There is a real and imminent danger that the promises made to improve mental health services for the millions of people who need them are about to be betrayed.”

Is she wrong? Is it not true that without proper funding for more staff, the Prime Minister’s pledge to transform mental health services will not be met?

[Jackie Doyle-Price]

As the hon. Gentleman knows, we have published a workforce strategy to deliver exactly on the commitments that the Prime Minister has made. I can report that we have had a significant increase in the workforce. For example, in IAPT—improving access to psychological therapies—the number is up by 2,728 since 2012, a 47% increase. The number of psychiatry consultants is up from 4,026 in 2010 to 4,292. The number of community psychiatry nurses is up from 15,500 in 2010 to 16,658 in August 2017. We are delivering the workforce to implement the Prime Minister’s commitments. The most important thing is that rather than trade numbers, we should look at outcomes for patients and improving patient care.