Debates between Jeff Smith and David Mowat during the 2015-2017 Parliament

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Jeff Smith and David Mowat
Tuesday 15th November 2016

(8 years ago)

Commons Chamber
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Jeff Smith Portrait Jeff Smith (Manchester, Withington) (Lab)
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11. What assessment he has made of the effect of changes to local authority social care budgets on the demand for health services.

David Mowat Portrait The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Health (David Mowat)
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Social care plays a vital role in keeping people healthy and independent, which is why the Government are making a further £3.5 billion available by 2020—a real-terms increase over the lifetime of this Parliament. There is an overlap between care and health, which is why faster integration is our major priority.

Jeff Smith Portrait Jeff Smith
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The Secretary of State’s Conservative predecessor, Stephen Dorrell, has said this month that we are increasingly using our acute hospitals as “unbelievably expensive care homes”, and he described this as a “grotesque waste of resources”. Is it not the case that the Government have simply outsourced the hardest decisions on social care cuts to the hardest-pressed local authorities to ensure that councils get the blame, not the Government, and that ultimately it is the NHS that suffers?

David Mowat Portrait David Mowat
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As I said earlier, we agree that the social care system is under pressure, but we also make the point that there is a massive disparity between the performance of different parts of that system. For example, Manchester, the hon. Gentleman’s own patch, has a DTOC performance seven to eight times worse, per 10,000 patients, than Salford, in spite of the 15% increase in its budget this year.